Tsunami Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 We were rubbish from the 1st minute today, no closing down, poor movement and no resemblence of being any kind of unit. We were ok last week, we were as bad as ever today. We need a complete shake up; Colo should have been sold, Haidara ain't good enough; the Anita/ Colback axis is a joke and Mitrovic now needs to start ahead of Cisse, we also need to get Perez in somewhere and Aarons in for Squidward. There's too many players in the comfort zone and we are sleepwalking in only our second game of the season. Can McClaren please show Ashley his interview before the West Ham game and then a video of that shambles today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 We were rubbish from the 1st minute today, no closing down, poor movement and no resemblence of being any kind of unit. We were ok last week, we were as bad as ever today. We need a complete shake up; Colo should have been sold, Haidara ain't good enough; the Anita/ Colback axis is a joke and Mitrovic now needs to start ahead of Cisse, we also need to get Perez in somewhere and Aarons in for Squidward. There's too many players in the comfort zone and we are sleepwalking in only our second game of the season. Agree with this. No-one to try and calm things down. Swansea pushed us until we were getting scared of the ball. No cohesion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I thought we had a good spell from the when they scored until Janmaat got sent off. Kept the ball well and looked relatively threatening while not giving any major chances away at the back. Sending off completely changed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I watched the Chelsea Swansea game and thought we would be exposed as 'not ready' today. Then seeing Everton beat Southampton 3-0 it doesn't bode well for the next few fixtures, if not the best part of the season. We'll finish in the middle of the bottom half. There's comfortably 3 teams worse than ourselves so there's no danger of relegation but equally there's no danger of us doing anything else either. That's the harsh reality of life under Mike Ashley. It's all rather pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I said last week that 5 of that team should have been nowhere near the pitch and yet some on here were getting excited about a very average performance when Southampton could have scored 4 or 5 easily. Roll on one week and the true signs are starting to show messers Anita and Colback being made to look the very average players they are and continuously passing the ball sideways or backwards whilst also being very physically weak and easily brushed aside in challenges. Colo was beaten again by a lack of positioning on the second goal and the first goal was also a brilliant example of how not to play for offside. The left side of the pitch was none existent again and the ball kept coming back due to Cisse not being able to hold up the ball and being selected as a target man and lone striker which he is clearly is not - what is the point of paying a big sum of money to put a player on the bench especially one who can actually hold the ball and bring other players into play which is a very key attribute when playing away from home in particular. If people say match fitness then why are Colo and Mbemba starting and surely playing football is the way to get match fit - I bet Mitrovic is already regretting moving to this shambles of a club. If this muppet of a manager (who should never have got the job in the first place) keeps playing Anita. Colback, Obertan, Hiadara and Colo and persists with Cisse up front on his own then this team will be in the bottom half of the table easily and again fighting to stay up. A winger, a striker, a left back and a central defender should be a matter of urgency and I would also argue a playmaking midfielder also but there will not be any more signings until some of the other squad are moved on. The total mismanagement and quality of players in this squad purchased in these last 3 years is bordering on scandalous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 We were rubbish from the 1st minute today, no closing down, poor movement and no resemblence of being any kind of unit. We were ok last week, we were as bad as ever today. We need a complete shake up; Colo should have been sold, Haidara ain't good enough; the Anita/ Colback axis is a joke and Mitrovic now needs to start ahead of Cisse, we also need to get Perez in somewhere and Aarons in for Squidward. There's too many players in the comfort zone and we are sleepwalking in only our second game of the season. Can McClaren please show Ashley his interview before the West Ham game and then a video of that shambles today. As bad as this? Oh dear. Any positives from the game at all?? How did Mbemba play? Headers scored again?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Mbemba's 2 tackles in the space of 5 seconds in the first half were probably my highlight of the game. Second one was absolutely brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 There's the optimism gone anyways.... Shame shite different season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 We were rubbish from the 1st minute today, no closing down, poor movement and no resemblence of being any kind of unit. We were ok last week, we were as bad as ever today. We need a complete shake up; Colo should have been sold, Haidara ain't good enough; the Anita/ Colback axis is a joke and Mitrovic now needs to start ahead of Cisse, we also need to get Perez in somewhere and Aarons in for Squidward. There's too many players in the comfort zone and we are sleepwalking in only our second game of the season. Can McClaren please show Ashley his interview before the West Ham game and then a video of that shambles today. As bad as this? Oh dear. Any positives from the game at all?? How did Mbemba play? Headers scored again?? Did ok, their second was a header. First one Gomis broke the offside trap went round Krul and tap in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Mbemba's 2 tackles in the space of 5 seconds in the first half were probably my highlight of the game. Second one was absolutely brilliant. Just goes to show how poor the rest of it was though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 There's the optimism gone anyways.... Shame shite different season After two matches. Fuckin' hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Well if this doesn't push them into buying a couple of quality defenders then nothing will. Priority is a top a quality Left Back and Centre Half. Ship willo out and I'd be ok having Colo and Taylor as back up. A Striker and a Winger would be a bonus but we could manage without until Jan. It would be interesting to see how the rest of the team would perform if we were solid at the back. But then, when have we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Deservedly beaten, we looked OK after the first 10-15 mins, then the red card killed the game. Damage limitation was probably the right response, but the starting lineup and substitutions weren't great. Let's hope McClaren learns something from it. I think he was loyal to Obertan and Cisse for their end-product contribution last week. Cisse has movement, awareness and finishing but not a lot else to his game and in games like this he is just a passenger. Yes he may nick you the game but that's unlikely let's be honest. Today we needed a more rounded player who can work harder, hold the ball up, relieve pressure and kickstart attacks. Cisse ends moves but does little else. He's a luxury we can't afford in games like this. Obertan has raw pace and a shot on him but again little else. We still know little about Mitrovic but he ticks the boxes Cisse doesn't and they're the things we needed today.We haven't had decent hold-up play for years and when our midfield is being outplayed we need someone who can hold it up and offer an outlet. Swansea are a passing team but they have muscle up front too and can switch it up. When we're outworked or outplayed in midfield we lack an outlet up front because Cisse doesn't have the pace or the strength to influence games off the ball. What he does he does very well, but it is a very limited skill-set Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Well if this doesn't push them into buying a couple of quality defenders then nothing will. We literally just extended Coloccini's contract and he remains captain, everything is bad forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 There's the optimism gone anyways.... Shame s**** different season After two matches. Fuckin' hell. Don't tell me it'll be any different after the 32nd game cus we will be in the same fucking position... Mc Clarens decisions today no ayoze ? No mitrovic? Fuck off.. United, arsenal, even west ham and fucking Watford will hammer us fucking shambolic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Blummin 'eck, Ohmelads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 There's the optimism gone anyways.... Shame s**** different season After two matches. Fuckin' hell. Don't tell me it'll be any different after the 32nd game cus we will be in the same fucking position... Mc Clarens decisions today no ayoze ? No mitrovic? Fuck off.. United, arsenal, even west ham and fucking Watford will hammer us fucking shambolic Holy crap theres pessimism then there this, jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Too soon to warm up the Relegationometer thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Too soon to warm up the Relegationometer thread? Get it warmed up to fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecrown Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Absolutely woeful. Why give mitrovic 8 minutes and play without a forward at all for so long. very negative. Very few positives that I could see, other than possibly Anita and Sissoko till he got injured. Wijnaldum anonymous and knocked off the ball very easily, Colocinni very poor, Janmaat poor and also idiotic for the 2nd foul where there was no danger. It's undoubtedly negative but I honestly can't see what's so hard to grasp. I know we're all afflicted by the Pardew regime, and any hint of outright negativity (like today) is bound to get the pitchforks out - but you've got to look at things on an individual basis. Pardew's gone, this is a new manager, uninspiring though he is. Taking it as an individual case, the game was more than likely lost and he endeavored to make sure it stayed at two. I disagree, there was loads of time left when we went 4-5-0 and I'd far rather we at least had a go in that time than just try and keep the score down. I agree - are we really going to end up in a situation where goal differential is gonna matter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 By the look of things, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah, there's nothing like getting absolutely tonked with a cricket score in game #2 of the season to get fans on side and a feel good factor going. It was undoubtedly 'negative' but we were getting fucking shafted and did well to keep it at two tbh. It's called "game management" I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah, there's nothing like getting absolutely tonked with a cricket score in game #2 of the season to get fans on side and a feel good factor going. It was undoubtedly 'negative' but we were getting f***ing shafted and did well to keep it at two tbh. It's called "game management" I believe. We mightn't have been getting shafted if we had tried to have more of a go, today was a shocker and McClaren played his part in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Seen nothing of the game but it sounded like we were thoroughly outplayed. Heard McClaren on Five Live saying they'd not learnt a thing from the match, which probably says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah, there's nothing like getting absolutely tonked with a cricket score in game #2 of the season to get fans on side and a feel good factor going. It was undoubtedly 'negative' but we were getting f***ing shafted and did well to keep it at two tbh. It's called "game management" I believe. We mightn't have been getting shafted if we had tried to have more of a go, today was a shocker and McClaren played his part in that. I thought we were poor all afternoon, but not because we were set up negatively from kickoff. We looked lackluster and sluggish but not particularly negative IMO. Yes, that is McClaren's fault, but I can't blame him for trying to prevent us getting heavily thumped today when it went to 11 vs 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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