number9shirt Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Marriner was more than happy to get his cards out. bit shy when it came to arsenal though !?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The major problem referees have is that their entire profession is based on a lie. The FA quash any idea that the referee might get something wrong, hence, no review of a decision that the ref has 'seen'. The only possible justification for that is that referees don't make mistakes. Anyone not willing to accept that they make mistakes isn't worthy of respect. Whats worse is the fact that managers can't come out and say it. You can talk about a referee if you think he got the decision spot on, talk bad about him then you get a fine, do it again then you get a touchline ban. In any other walk of life speaking the truth in such is not punishable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The major problem referees have is that their entire profession is based on a lie. The FA quash any idea that the referee might get something wrong, hence, no review of a decision that the ref has 'seen'. The only possible justification for that is that referees don't make mistakes. Anyone not willing to accept that they make mistakes isn't worthy of respect. Fans and managers should accept that as well though, shouldn't they? Yes Ian, they should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Refs need to stop trying to nevthe centre of attention to command respect. 2/3 in the premier league are guilty of this, undermines the rest of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bert Shaft Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The thing is, if an opposition player did the challenge mitrovic did today then this place would be up in arms baying for blood. It's a red card. Whether it would warrant it 10 years ago is irrelevant...today it is a red card, sadly. Is it/was it fuck. Today's footballers like Coquelin are nowt but namby pamby shithouse cunts. Yellow card for Mitrovic was warranted, red card not. No intent whatsoever...Arsenal deserved their win but were assisted by a bent corrupt ref after he missed a blatant penalty and felt the need to rectify his amateurish mistake. Marriner should be demoted to non league football, the bent cunt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 First time I smile at media bans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Marriner was more than happy to get his cards out. bit shy when it came to arsenal though !?!? The premier league is a very large global brand . with a small group of about six teams that must be protected to sell that brand. Arsenal are one of those teams.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 My favourite outburst about refereeing came from Brenda when he said "We all know the big teams get the decisions. We're a big team, so why aren't we getting the decisions?!" There is also The ref told me that during a Premier League meeting of top referees, Scudamore had finished off by saying: “And, remember, you’re not in a sport, you are part of the entertainment business. We don’t want our top players being sent off every week because it’s bad for the brand. We want them on the pitch as much as possible.” http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/the-secret-footballer/13015/referees-told-to-respect-premier-league-brand/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I looked it up and Marinner only sent one player off in all of last season. Timing wise, I guess it must have been that case of mistaken identity for the poor ol' Arsenal. It was for a handball on the line as well, not dangerous play. Anyway, I find it hard to believe that Mitro's challenge would be the worst thing a referee's would see in a season's worth of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Regardless of the decisions made by Marriner, this match shows us that we have a number of strengths and a number of problems. The fact that the side kept Arsenal out until late in the game shows that in certain circumstances(i.e. when a team like Arsenal keep possession but use a slow build-up, we can keep them at bay because players like Colo, who was outstanding yesterday, are not having to turn and chase a speedy forward as would be the case if the opposition was playing on the break). Colo's experience enabled him to read most of what Arsenal were trying to do and the rest of the defence also kept discipline...Haidara gets crucified on here, yet he was second only to Colo in his defence effectiveness yesterday. If anything, he was safer than Janmaat on the other side. Until Giroud came on, Arsenal were also without a tall forward . We shall never know what would have happened had Mitrovic not been sent off and everyone has their own view about this player. It IS possible that refs have made their minds up that he needs to be watched and the foul was definitely borderline ; certainly a yellow and maybe a red although Coquelin, who dived and play-acted all game, was probably responsible for Marriner bringing the red out...together with his dodgy decision about missing the Thauvin tackle which should have been a pen. It is hard to imagine we would have got anything yesterday if the Pen had been awarded and Mitrovic stayed on the field....they basically outplayed us in m/f and with their off-ball movement although for me, Wijnaldum was just behind Colo for MOM yesterday ; his best game in a B & W shirt in terms of overall commitment and he was instrumental in taking the pressure off several times by his ability to hold and run with the ball. What we lack in m/f is a player with vision but we aint going to get one of those in a hurry. Anita and Colback did a decent job of stemming the flow in front of the defence, but Anita spoiled this by often giving possession away after intercepting the ball. Thauvin did a manful job on his own when you consider this was his first PL full game but he was never going to do it all by himself - the whole team was given just too big a task once Mitrovic went and several others were on yellows but even the Arsenal goal had a hint of fortune about it, being slightly deflected by Colo's heel. We may yet rue the fact that a PL-experienced forward has not been signed...Mitrovic out now for 3 matches and we face a tough few games yet with a trip to the Scouse-beating hammers next. There IS potential in the side but no back-up once injuries and suspensions take their toll...its also hard to see where goals are coming from at PL level and it is going to be late in the season before the side starts showing what it is capable of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This is the most infuriating commentary in a long time. Waddle was just as bad on our commentary in Oz....supported Marriner over almost every decision apart from his not awarding a pen for Thauvin's tackle..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 After reading a fair few comments from earlier in the thread, some people need to get their heads round the fact that NUFC are NOT a popular club anymore, especially in the south. We upset a lot of comfortable journalists by challenging the London-NW axis back under SJH and KK - also, to a lesser extent under SBR, but they weren't as vocal about him because he had been England manager. Once the 'Entertainers' tag wore thin and we fluffed the title in 96, they began to see us as Paper Tigers who they could laugh at, esp once SJH and KK went and again after SBR was sacked. TBF, they have had a point since then...we have had a succession of dire managers, a board which was nepotistic to say the least and then a new owner who has done his best to make money from the club by turning it into a laughing stock with mindless decisions...because he too is a Southerner, we are resented by people down there because we rejected him and his southern oppos like Wise, the two Spanish sounding guys , Llambias and managers like Pardew and the Womble King. The media don't like him because of his decision to give exclusivity to News Corp(SKY)and Mirror Group, so we get a bad press there. TBH, the majority in the rest of the UK would be delighted if the club folded tomorrow, apart from the fact that most of the PL get a decent points haul from playing NUFC and SKY get full stadiums to show every time they visit SJP. You would have to be stupid not to think that all this has gone unnoticed by the PL, the FA and Refs generally, and that is why they act accordingly... It has NEVER been easy following NUFC and it isn't going to change any time soon..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 After reading a fair few comments from earlier in the thread, some people need to get their heads round the fact that NUFC are NOT a popular club anymore, especially in the south. We upset a lot of comfortable journalists by challenging the London-NW axis back under SJH and KK - also, to a lesser extent under SBR, but they weren't as vocal about him because he had been England manager. Once the 'Entertainers' tag wore thin and we fluffed the title in 96, they began to see us as Paper Tigers who they could laugh at, esp once SJH and KK went and again after SBR was sacked. TBF, they have had a point since then...we have had a succession of dire managers, a board which was nepotistic to say the least and then a new owner who has done his best to make money from the club by turning it into a laughing stock with mindless decisions...because he too is a Southerner, we are resented by people down there because we rejected him and his southern oppos like Wise, the two Spanish sounding guys , Llambias and managers like Pardew and the Womble King. The media don't like him because of his decision to give exclusivity to News Corp(SKY)and Mirror Group, so we get a bad press there. TBH, the majority in the rest of the UK would be delighted if the club folded tomorrow, apart from the fact that most of the PL get a decent points haul from playing NUFC and SKY get full stadiums to show every time they visit SJP. You would have to be stupid not to think that all this has gone unnoticed by the PL, the FA and Refs generally, and that is why they act accordingly... It has NEVER been easy following NUFC and it isn't going to change any time soon..! Totally agree ... and I think it is worse due to the current political environment of England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This is the most infuriating commentary in a long time. Waddle was just as bad on our commentary in Oz....supported Marriner over almost every decision apart from his not awarding a pen for Thauvin's tackle..! Tbf to pelanty his initial reaction was that it wasn't a red, it was only after he realised he had better fall into line he changed his view. He also said that Colo's tackle wasn't a free kick. Not that I'm sticking up for him like, can't stand him. Whereabouts in oz are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Ashley's right...ban the lot of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The mirror have gave us a terrible write up this morning basically saying arsenal are a wonderful team full of silky midfielders that need more protection and we are just a bunch of cloggers that should just lie down and let the big teams win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Robbie Savage is unbearable to listen to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I cannot believe I've just seen an ex-pro actively encouraging players to surround referees and ask for cards to be given. Astonishing. Why not, they say to hit the deck if even looked at in the box ? It's a horrible, horrible game at this level, only my partisanship keeps me involved. This 1000000% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Marriner was more than happy to get his cards out. bit shy when it came to arsenal though !?!? Lovely red-shirted, champions league team, even the odd England international, always backed to the hilt in the national media innit. What's not to like/be biased towards from a ref's point of view??? Also, anyone know how long Coquelin's gonna be out for and what hospital he's staying in? We should probably send him a get well soon card or summat... Actually forget it, he'd only feign a paper cut and we'd all get in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The thing is, if an opposition player did the challenge mitrovic did today then this place would be up in arms baying for blood. It's a red card. Whether it would warrant it 10 years ago is irrelevant...today it is a red card, sadly. Is it/was it f***. Today's footballers like Coquelin are nowt but namby pamby shithouse c***s. Yellow card for Mitrovic was warranted, red card not. No intent whatsoever...Arsenal deserved their win but were assisted by a bent corrupt ref after he missed a blatant penalty and felt the need to rectify his amateurish mistake. Marriner should be demoted to non league football, the bent c***... Bit harsh on non league football tbh. The bloke is beyond incompetent, he's a downright cheat. I still remember when the same bloke refereed us down at Goodison (Ben Arfa 1-0) when he refused to give us the most blatant penalty you are ever likely to see when Nolan had his legs swiped from underneath him just as he was about to make it 2-0 and he unbelievably waved play on. The cameras showed he had a clear view of it and every single pundit, and an ex referee, were all in amazement that he didn't give it because it was so clear cut. Things like that go beyond incompetence. Since I packed my season ticket I've started watching Northern League and it's refreshing to see referees using common sense there. At that level Mitrovic challenge would have been a foul and possibly a booking, eye on the ball all the way and he stood on his foot. That's what it was, nothing more. The best refereeing performances are the ones where they don't get a mention. Today's newspapers will be all about Marriner. No doubt that's what he'll want but all it shows is how bad a game he had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/ynfathehub Anyone seen this page, the first video. It reminds me of Savage yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Worth bearing in mind that Waddle is a mackem and rarely has a good word to say about us (even if he was a great player) Wasn't be also banned from St James' for a bit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This is the most infuriating commentary in a long time. Waddle was just as bad on our commentary in Oz....supported Marriner over almost every decision apart from his not awarding a pen for Thauvin's tackle..! Tbf to pelanty his initial reaction was that it wasn't a red, it was only after he realised he had better fall into line he changed his view. He also said that Colo's tackle wasn't a free kick. Not that I'm sticking up for him like, can't stand him. Whereabouts in oz are you? In WA. south of Perth...great place and weather AND we get almost all Newcastle PL games throughout the season. Because we are 2-3 hours behind the East depending on the time of year, the games are not on at stupid times either as we are only either 7 or 8 hours in front of the UK..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Worth bearing in mind that Waddle is a mackem and rarely has a good word to say about us (even if he was a great player) Wasn't be also banned from St James' for a bit? My dad used to play in the same side as him. Said even at 16, playing against 20-30 year old men he never looked like he was running but nobody could ever get close to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Goals on Sunday said they thought it wasn't a red card. Even turbo cunt Poyet said it wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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