mrmojorisin75 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The fact that this is even being entertained by fans as a red card is highly disappointing to me, and it doesn't fill me with faith on the progression of football in the future. It's close to unwatchable as it is. Could not agree more with this. Can't get my head around people even thinking it was a red, he was virtually standing still with most of his weight on the leg planted in the ground so... argh f*** it it's been done to death already. Sad part is the prevailing narrative is he's a lunatic who almost murdered the Arsenal t*** so if he so much as bumps into anyone now his card is marked as a thug. Sorry, I don't think it's a red, it's a yellow in my opinion. But to say he's virtually standing still is a lie. He clearly goes after the ball and misses it with studs right onto the shin. If I was Coquelin I'd be very disappointed at being on the receiving end of challenge like that. It's never red though, clearly because he's always looking at the ball but to say it's nothing and play on as some have suggested is as biased as people saying he went for it to break his leg. He took the ball on his chest and it got away from him, he was barely fucking moving when he made contact like and his standing leg was planted in the ground. Studs up straight reds are usually for both feet off the ground and/or flying into a tackle at speed that could really hurt someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Not having it mojorisin. Your opinion and mine differ despite me believing it was a firm yellow. He's not completely innocent in that challenge like. He's late. Anyways Looking forward to the next game. This season is weird, not winning but I'm excited again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Not having it mojorisin. Your opinion and mine differ despite me believing it was a firm yellow. He's not completely innocent in that challenge like. He's late. Anyways Looking forward to the next game. This season is weird, not winning but I'm excited again. Ah no he's late aye, don't think I'm disputing that, but the chances of him hurting the guy given his lack of momentum and force into the tackle are absolute zero. Yellow for being a slow clumsy oaf but not a red in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Not having it mojorisin. Your opinion and mine differ despite me believing it was a firm yellow. He's not completely innocent in that challenge like. He's late. Anyways Looking forward to the next game. This season is weird, not winning but I'm excited again. Ah no he's late aye, don't think I'm disputing that, but the chances of him hurting the guy given his lack of momentum and force into the tackle are absolute zero. Yellow for being a slow clumsy oaf but not a red in a million years. That I agree with. I do see why some think it's a red though. I don't agree with it, but I can see why some would say it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Still never a red. Neither a fucking "Orange". Pansy fucks. Semtex in implying he's proper masculine and that shocker. Aye, that's it. Nowt to do with the fact that he barely touched the man and it's a contact sport. It's a foul, but personally, I wouldn't even give a yellow. I can accept yellow given the current spineless-diving-pricks climate that we're enabling by accepting that shit like this is a red fucking card. A red card man. Embarrasing. He stood on his shin and foot man. Regardless of your own measure of what's a red card or not, he and we all know that standing on a player's shin/foot like that is going to be a red card and we have done for years. the outrage Also known as a completely predictable red card. Right I'm tired of this already. We started off with the classic unnecessary personal jibe and we've gone downhill. When playing actual football, people get their feet/ankles stood on all the time. If it's not malicious or at great speed, it is a freekick, a swift apology, and off you go. If that's super manly, then I guess I'm super super manly, which is not something I've been accused of before, trust me. The fact that this is even being entertained by fans as a red card is highly disappointing to me, and it doesn't fill me with faith on the progression of football in the future. It's close to unwatchable as it is. Personal jibe. Howeh, I'm just messing about. Basically my point is that yes, the game is soft and I'd rather stuff like that was just a free kick, but no, it's not surprising that he was sent off because in the modern game that is a red card. I think that's where the dispute is tbh, I've pretty much resigned myself that the ref guidelines for what is considered dangerous play are a lot tougher now, so intent or force are not as much of a consideration. In the past you would get a booking but these days refs are giving those challenges a red far more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Ah no he's late aye, don't think I'm disputing that, but the chances of him hurting the guy given his lack of momentum and force into the tackle are absolute zero. Yellow for being a slow clumsy oaf but not a red in a million years. this is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Still never a red. Neither a f***ing "Orange". Pansy f***s. Semtex in implying he's proper masculine and that shocker. Aye, that's it. Nowt to do with the fact that he barely touched the man and it's a contact sport. It's a foul, but personally, I wouldn't even give a yellow. I can accept yellow given the current spineless-diving-pricks climate that we're enabling by accepting that s*** like this is a red f***ing card. A red card man. Embarrasing. He stood on his shin and foot man. Regardless of your own measure of what's a red card or not, he and we all know that standing on a player's shin/foot like that is going to be a red card and we have done for years. the outrage Also known as a completely predictable red card. Right I'm tired of this already. We started off with the classic unnecessary personal jibe and we've gone downhill. When playing actual football, people get their feet/ankles stood on all the time. If it's not malicious or at great speed, it is a freekick, a swift apology, and off you go. If that's super manly, then I guess I'm super super manly, which is not something I've been accused of before, trust me. The fact that this is even being entertained by fans as a red card is highly disappointing to me, and it doesn't fill me with faith on the progression of football in the future. It's close to unwatchable as it is. Personal jibe. Howeh, I'm just messing about. Basically my point is that yes, the game is soft and I'd rather stuff like that was just a free kick, but no, it's not surprising that he was sent off because in the modern game that is a red card. I think that's where the dispute is tbh, I've pretty much resigned myself that the ref guidelines for what is considered dangerous play are a lot tougher now, so intent or force are not as much of a consideration. In the past you would get a booking but these days refs are giving those challenges a red far more. Then you see the Shaw 'incident' and no one has a clue anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 In the "modern game" it sometimes is and it sometimes isn't. In trying to be unbiased, I'd also think that a challenge with little aggression and momentum in it like Mitro's would much more often not be a red. No reason we should just content ourselves with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 In the "modern game" it sometimes is and it sometimes isn't. In trying to be unbiased, I'd also think that a challenge with little aggression and momentum in it like Mitro's would much more often not be a red. No reason we should just content ourselves with that. In the modern game, it very much depends who you play for as well. No way Rooney/Sanchez/Aguero are getting sent off for that, as the league needs it's best players on the pitch to sell it's product. NUFC and their radgie Serbian pantomime villain on the other hand are another kettle of fish, and referees are very much aware of this. Fwiw, I think it was probably a little more red than yellow, but certainly not as clear cut as the Arsenal fans and media lobby have made out. Going from some of them on my facebook, you'd have thought Mitro had maimed their brave soldier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. I think some of them still haven't caught up with the tougher guidelines for referees concerning dangerous tackles and think it's still 1995. Going into a tackle with your studs up and shin high is asking for a red even if there is minimal contact. I had this argument on Saturday with mojo and he ended up telling me to fuck off. Funny you say 1995 - I remember the 1994 World Cup being when they tried to clamp down on rough play and completely cocked it up. There were a handful of barmy red card decisions, including Zola being sent off 3 minutes after coming on winning the ball in a 50-50 challenge. If memory serves Marco Etcheverria of Bolivia had an equally daft red. I reckon this was a red, but I also reckon that every other decision except the red and the pen were ridiculously biased. Can't remember a worse refereeing performance (outside of a World Cup, when you get the shit international referees!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Actually, it was, did you not notice he got sent off ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Actually, it was, did you not notice he got sent off ? Ah, I see. All refereeing decisions are on the money and never wrong then. Good to know. Make sure you let all the fans in the ground know so they don't bother going mental when one of our players gets sent off for lightly touching an opposition player on his shinpad. Really glad I checked this thread, it's been bothering me for a while but now I know mistakes are never made I can carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Actually, it was, did you not notice he got sent off ? Ah, I see. All refereeing decisions are on the money and never wrong then. Good to know. Make sure you let all the fans in the ground know so they don't bother going mental when one of our players gets sent off for lightly touching an opposition player on his shinpad. Really glad I checked this thread, it's been bothering me for a while but now I know mistakes are never made I can carry on. You're kidding right ? Of course refs get it wrong sometimes. He missed the Arsenal penalty, it was a mistake. The red card was bang on Mitro went straight down the lads shin, the ball was long gone. His only intention was to hurt him. A clear red. I seriously don't know what all the winging about it is for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Actually, it was, did you not notice he got sent off ? Ah, I see. All refereeing decisions are on the money and never wrong then. Good to know. Make sure you let all the fans in the ground know so they don't bother going mental when one of our players gets sent off for lightly touching an opposition player on his shinpad. Really glad I checked this thread, it's been bothering me for a while but now I know mistakes are never made I can carry on. You're kidding right ? Of course refs get it wrong sometimes. He missed the Arsenal penalty, it was a mistake. The red card was bang on Mitro went straight down the lads shin, the ball was long gone. His only intention was to hurt him. A clear red. I seriously don't know what all the winging about it is for. You are fucked in the head if you think there was any intention to hurt in that challenge like. EDIT: in fact I'd say that the fact there was no intention to hurt the lad is about the only thing people in here agree about, except you obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Actually, it was, did you not notice he got sent off ? Ah, I see. All refereeing decisions are on the money and never wrong then. Good to know. Make sure you let all the fans in the ground know so they don't bother going mental when one of our players gets sent off for lightly touching an opposition player on his shinpad. Really glad I checked this thread, it's been bothering me for a while but now I know mistakes are never made I can carry on. You're kidding right ? Of course refs get it wrong sometimes. He missed the Arsenal penalty, it was a mistake. The red card was bang on Mitro went straight down the lads shin, the ball was long gone. His only intention was to hurt him. A clear red. I seriously don't know what all the winging about it is for. You are f***ed in the head if you think there was any intention to hurt in that challenge like. EDIT: in fact I'd say that the fact there was no intention to hurt the lad is about the only thing people in here agree about, except you obviously. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one. Although I don't see any need for insults. I still think the ref was correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Actually, it was, did you not notice he got sent off ? Ah, I see. All refereeing decisions are on the money and never wrong then. Good to know. Make sure you let all the fans in the ground know so they don't bother going mental when one of our players gets sent off for lightly touching an opposition player on his shinpad. Really glad I checked this thread, it's been bothering me for a while but now I know mistakes are never made I can carry on. You're kidding right ? Of course refs get it wrong sometimes. He missed the Arsenal penalty, it was a mistake. The red card was bang on Mitro went straight down the lads shin, the ball was long gone. His only intention was to hurt him. A clear red. I seriously don't know what all the winging about it is for. You are f***ed in the head if you think there was any intention to hurt in that challenge like. EDIT: in fact I'd say that the fact there was no intention to hurt the lad is about the only thing people in here agree about, except you obviously. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one. Although I don't see any need for insults. I still think the ref was correct. what a crock of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was a red all day. Lots of people here are a tad blind, it was never a red all day. Actually, it was, did you not notice he got sent off ? Ah, I see. All refereeing decisions are on the money and never wrong then. Good to know. Make sure you let all the fans in the ground know so they don't bother going mental when one of our players gets sent off for lightly touching an opposition player on his shinpad. Really glad I checked this thread, it's been bothering me for a while but now I know mistakes are never made I can carry on. You're kidding right ? Of course refs get it wrong sometimes. He missed the Arsenal penalty, it was a mistake. The red card was bang on Mitro went straight down the lads shin, the ball was long gone. His only intention was to hurt him. A clear red. I seriously don't know what all the winging about it is for. You are f***ed in the head if you think there was any intention to hurt in that challenge like. EDIT: in fact I'd say that the fact there was no intention to hurt the lad is about the only thing people in here agree about, except you obviously. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one. Although I don't see any need for insults. I still think the ref was correct. what a crock of s***. Grow up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Is this the longest post-game thread ever ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yes. Let's continue it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yes. Let's continue it. Someone said Mitro acted like a tit.. http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3u/lY/2iR0Xa30/img20150831181039.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Your craic is shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Outlaw Pete Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Your craic is s*** Grow up little boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Think we've found our first native of Planet Soft Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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