sempuki Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 What he did was the footballing equivalent of indulging in scat, but everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves, if he's learned a lesson then fair enough. Endulging in scat ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Reports starting to say he regrets leaving. Sam didn't really seem desperate to keep him. Could happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Townsend comes in and he's at worst the 3rd best player in the team. The second best attacker in the team. We aren't Liverpool or Manchester United. We get relegated and any PL team could take our best players. No hard feelings. It's not often you write a post that isn't full of shit, but this is definitely one of them. Agree with that in full. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace Cunt never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace Cunt never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Do find this a strange move for all parties, but obviously he will improve us significantly so fair enough. It's not strange at all if you are of the opinion that it was a daft move to go to Palace in the first place. We resurrected his international career and gave him a stage to do his stuff. If he's finally realised that then at least it shows he's not completely brain dead. More worrying is that we are supposedly pissing about with the loan option. Again, I hope that's not true because you don't hire a manager like Rafa and then start penny pinching. Couldn't he get a move to another PL team though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Can see this one going down to the deadline if true, and being a case of seeing who blinks first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. How much did we get in parachute payments ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The loss come into play until the end of this season though right? Even then, the first parachute payment isn't a million miles from what we'd have got last year (I think). Clearly therell be a loss in other revenue but if we go back up first time I'm sure the hit isn't too bad. Or I might be talking shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 If he signs everyone will be all Hail Andros! There's no doubt in my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. How much did we get in parachute payments ? (I believe) About a third of what we'd get in the prem...so around £30m compared to £90m for finishing last. So we need to find £60m to break even, £30m if you include the other £30m Ashley just put in to service the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Why are we so apparently set on a loan deal anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 If he signs everyone will be all Hail Andros! There's no doubt in my mind. I'll think he's a good signing but I don't have any affection for the guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The loss come into play until the end of this season though right? Even then, the first parachute payment isn't a million miles from what we'd have got last year (I think). Clearly therell be a loss in other revenue but if we go back up first time I'm sure the hit isn't too bad. Or I might be talking shite. TBH I haven't got a clue when the money comes in, I'd imagine though you get your money at the start of each season in advance or promoted clubs won't be able to spend until they are potentially relegated again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Why are we so apparently set on a loan deal anyway? Because promotion isn't nailed on, neither is him performing and I guess if we can get a loan we keep whatever funds we do have if someone else comes up before deadline day. It's smart business imho, I don't think the manager will have too much of a problem. Should a concrete transfer offer come in from Boro then that would change things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The loss come into play until the end of this season though right? Even then, the first parachute payment isn't a million miles from what we'd have got last year (I think). Clearly therell be a loss in other revenue but if we go back up first time I'm sure the hit isn't too bad. Or I might be talking s****. TBH I haven't got a clue when the money comes in, I'd imagine though you get your money at the start of each season in advance or promoted clubs won't be able to spend until they are potentially relegated again. Pretty sure it's at the end but could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I'd prefer a loan fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Why are we so apparently set on a loan deal anyway? Because promotion isn't nailed on, neither is him performing and I guess if we can get a loan we keep whatever funds we do have if someone else comes up before deadline day. It's smart business imho, I don't think the manager will have too much of a problem. Should a concrete transfer offer come in from Boro then that would change things. Then if he does perform Palace can just tell us to fuck off and take him back in the summer. Rather just buy him tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The loss come into play until the end of this season though right? Even then, the first parachute payment isn't a million miles from what we'd have got last year (I think). Clearly therell be a loss in other revenue but if we go back up first time I'm sure the hit isn't too bad. Or I might be talking s****. TBH I haven't got a clue when the money comes in, I'd imagine though you get your money at the start of each season in advance or promoted clubs won't be able to spend until they are potentially relegated again. Pretty sure it's at the end but could be wrong. It is. That is why we need Ashley's £33m loan to bridge the gap between now and end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The outgoings don't stay the same because we sold players on extremely high wages whilst bringing in players on much lower wages. We're also bringing in more matchday income due to having more supporters through the door, factor in the extra income we've also received from the cup matches we've played at home in comparison to last season. Ticket sales and the retail sales. We'll have also have sold more club shirts this season as the design is less shit and kids don't have the Wonga logo anymore. Also the player sales, parachute payments etc. etc. It's not as simple as you're making out, whilst we are definitely worse off in this position it is nowhere near as bad as you're making out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I'm surprised quite a few people thought we would have a good transfer budget for this window, it's basically a cliff you face when being relegated even with the parachute payments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Swiss Ramble said last year we would have a £50m black hole from relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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