Dokko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The loss come into play until the end of this season though right? Even then, the first parachute payment isn't a million miles from what we'd have got last year (I think). Clearly therell be a loss in other revenue but if we go back up first time I'm sure the hit isn't too bad. Or I might be talking shite. TBH I haven't got a clue when the money comes in, I'd imagine though you get your money at the start of each season in advance or promoted clubs won't be able to spend until they are potentially relegated again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Why are we so apparently set on a loan deal anyway? Because promotion isn't nailed on, neither is him performing and I guess if we can get a loan we keep whatever funds we do have if someone else comes up before deadline day. It's smart business imho, I don't think the manager will have too much of a problem. Should a concrete transfer offer come in from Boro then that would change things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The loss come into play until the end of this season though right? Even then, the first parachute payment isn't a million miles from what we'd have got last year (I think). Clearly therell be a loss in other revenue but if we go back up first time I'm sure the hit isn't too bad. Or I might be talking s****. TBH I haven't got a clue when the money comes in, I'd imagine though you get your money at the start of each season in advance or promoted clubs won't be able to spend until they are potentially relegated again. Pretty sure it's at the end but could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I'd prefer a loan fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Why are we so apparently set on a loan deal anyway? Because promotion isn't nailed on, neither is him performing and I guess if we can get a loan we keep whatever funds we do have if someone else comes up before deadline day. It's smart business imho, I don't think the manager will have too much of a problem. Should a concrete transfer offer come in from Boro then that would change things. Then if he does perform Palace can just tell us to fuck off and take him back in the summer. Rather just buy him tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The loss come into play until the end of this season though right? Even then, the first parachute payment isn't a million miles from what we'd have got last year (I think). Clearly therell be a loss in other revenue but if we go back up first time I'm sure the hit isn't too bad. Or I might be talking s****. TBH I haven't got a clue when the money comes in, I'd imagine though you get your money at the start of each season in advance or promoted clubs won't be able to spend until they are potentially relegated again. Pretty sure it's at the end but could be wrong. It is. That is why we need Ashley's £33m loan to bridge the gap between now and end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 More here. Ashley up to his old tricks again? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/20/newcastle-andros-townsend-crystal-palace c*** never learns if it's true he's refusing to release funds until we're back in the prem. We spent a lot of money on squad & backup players in the summer, now we can't afford first teamers who'll make a difference in the title race. I think funds will be released for the right deal, but I don't think the club is particularly trying to find that deal, more waiting for it to land at their doorsteps and have a nibble. We didn't spend a lot in the summer though. We made a £30 mil profit !! It's not as simple as that though, we've been relegated and taking huge losses on income while outcome stays the same. When you factor we sell in instalments and buy up front, signing on fees, player % of sales etc...it's clearly not £30m profit. The outgoings don't stay the same because we sold players on extremely high wages whilst bringing in players on much lower wages. We're also bringing in more matchday income due to having more supporters through the door, factor in the extra income we've also received from the cup matches we've played at home in comparison to last season. Ticket sales and the retail sales. We'll have also have sold more club shirts this season as the design is less shit and kids don't have the Wonga logo anymore. Also the player sales, parachute payments etc. etc. It's not as simple as you're making out, whilst we are definitely worse off in this position it is nowhere near as bad as you're making out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I'm surprised quite a few people thought we would have a good transfer budget for this window, it's basically a cliff you face when being relegated even with the parachute payments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Swiss Ramble said last year we would have a £50m black hole from relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Why are we so apparently set on a loan deal anyway? Because promotion isn't nailed on, neither is him performing and I guess if we can get a loan we keep whatever funds we do have if someone else comes up before deadline day. It's smart business imho, I don't think the manager will have too much of a problem. Should a concrete transfer offer come in from Boro then that would change things. Then if he does perform Palace can just tell us to f*** off and take him back in the summer. Rather just buy him tbh Pretty much every article says we would have an option to buy or obligation to buy (should we get promoted) if we loan him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Fair enough, didnt know that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 If Townsend came back it would be nice (and probably ingratiate himself more with some of the less welcoming fans) if he admitted he was wrong to leave for Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Of all our summer exits, his was the most disappointing. I was in two minds when he left. It hurt because he was the one player I didn't want us to lose at the time - he'd been one of our best players and had given his all. Having signed so recently in January and having waited his whole career to get a run, he seemed to have found a home and I genuinely thought he might stay on. Once a Premier League club came in and triggered the release clause though, I'd say most players would have left too. Townsend made a dumb decision to go to Pardew's Palace and we all knew it at the time. They'd been statistically the worst team in England all year. You'd think he surely knows he made the wrong decision now. Rejecting him out of stubborn pride would be cutting our nose off to spite our face. He didn't down tools like Cabaye or whore himself around like Sissoko or act unprofessionally in any way - he was simply offered an opportunity for a club in a higher division and took it. If we have an opportunity to sign him, it's a no brainer. He's shown he can follow Rafa's instructions and fit very well into his system at Premier League level. It's as low-risk a signing as we are going to get and we don't exactly have a string of deals lined up for Premier League-ready players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Get him hyem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 He'd be a good signing but it's somehow not as exciting as a proper 'new' signing. Maybe just me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 He excelled under Benitez and would give us more of that offensive threat we'd be missing. Ohmelads is spot on above about cutting noses of to spite faces regarding any potential return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I know that we will have taken a financial hit from being relegated, but where have the profits gone that the club made from the previous few years? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I know that we will have taken a financial hit from being relegated, but where have the profits gone that the club made from the previous few years? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The two windows before that our precious net spend was pretty big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I know that we will have taken a financial hit from being relegated, but where have the profits gone that the club made from the previous few years? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thauvin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I know that we will have taken a financial hit from being relegated, but where have the profits gone that the club made from the previous few years? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk McClaren spent about 80mill in 2 transfer windows didn't he? Tell your something mind, I'm a little worried about the phrase Ashley won't spend big on players until we're back in the premier league. If we fuck this up we could be here for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 We let a busted flush like McClaren spend 80 million and heads didn't roll. Mike really does love his yes men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 We let a busted flush like McClaren spend 80 million and heads didn't roll. Mike really does love his yes men. The useless mcclaren was in charge then, but how much of that 80 mil was down to him? We may never know but it looked like those deals were already in place/being pursued before he took the <whiny voice> "head coach" role. It looked like it was the Carr/Charnley combination of spunking money against the wall against people who clearly didn't want to come (eg thauvin). I think Andros would be good for us though. He was decent in the premier league last season for us (under Rafa) and i'd like to have some excitement on the wings rather than having "Alright Backup I Suppose" Gouffran play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 There was some dodgy goings on between the club and that agency in France. :-( Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 0.8ppg no excuse for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Think we might get him near the end of the window. No use for big Fat Sam to keep an unhappy player and if the last choice for him is to loan Townsend now and get guaranteed money at the end of the season, he'd probably take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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