Andros Townsend

[Foluwashola]

Lansbury would be an absolute wanker we'd be lumbered with for years for the sake of 5 months though. No problem with that sort of signing being overlooked.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

yous don't get it like. Benitez wanted at least a couple of players. He's went on record saying he wants a winger and a central midfielder. He hasn't gotten any of them (he may get 1 if Palace bring down their price or we cave and pay up - providing the reports are true).

 

We only have 2 Championship quality central midfielders, you kna, the league we're actually in? Lansbury (c*** aye) would be a massive improvement and cost Villa a few million.

 

If Rafa wasn't being backed then we'd never have signed Murphy or Gamez.

 

Rafa himself has stressed several times that he only wants to bring people in if they will improve the squad and be able to step up next season, the lack of signings is probably indicative of the fact that players are unwilling to drop into the Championship or are not available for sale.

 

It's quite a slow window this January anyway as is evidenced in the fact that 7 PL teams haven't made a single signing yet. Usually incomings mean outgoings, teams wont be willing to let players go unless they have a replacement ready to bring in. We're possibly struggling to buy because clubs cannot replace the players we want.

 

Rafa wouldn't be walking out at SJP on Wednesday if Ashley had gone back on his word and as Ian correctly said earlier, there is no point worrying over something that may never happen.

[JP]

yous don't get it like. Benitez wanted at least a couple of players. He's went on record saying he wants a winger and a central midfielder. He hasn't gotten any of them (he may get 1 if Palace bring down their price or we cave and pay up - providing the reports are true).

 

We only have 2 Championship quality central midfielders, you kna, the league we're actually in? Lansbury (c*** aye) would be a massive improvement and cost Villa a few million.

 

Lansbury, described by yourself as a c***, is not the type of player Rafa would ever sign. He often talks about work ethic and personalities of players.

[Teasy]

yous don't get it like. Benitez wanted at least a couple of players. He's went on record saying he wants a winger and a central midfielder. He hasn't gotten any of them (he may get 1 if Palace bring down their price or we cave and pay up - providing the reports are true).

 

We only have 2 Championship quality central midfielders, you kna, the league we're actually in? Lansbury (cunt aye) would be a massive improvement and cost Villa a few million.

 

You don't get it, the comparison is ridiculous.  We want a couple of players, comparatively Villa desperately needed players.  We want Premier League players, Villa will take anyone who can improve them from the god awful position they're in.  Its a silly comparison.

[Hanshithispantz]

It doesn't have to be Lansbury. Villa identified and signed 3 central midfielders. We've identified and signed none.

 

We should still go up comfortably but ignoring the opportunity (and the manager) to make sure of it is just daft to me.

[Dave]

Villa needed to buy and have signed Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason and Bree. There's really no excuse for us not signing anyone like.

 

We probably don't need to buy tbh.

 

Not what the manager thinks though, which is surely the point.

[Parsley]

It doesn't have to be Lansbury. Villa identified and signed 3 central midfielders. We've identified and signed none.

 

We should still go up comfortably but ignoring the opportunity (and the manager) to make sure of it is just daft to me.

Villa have also lost 2 CMs this window as well mind.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

It doesn't have to be Lansbury. Villa identified and signed 3 central midfielders. We've identified and signed none.

 

We should still go up comfortably but ignoring the opportunity (and the manager) to make sure of it is just daft to me.

 

If we wanted to sign 3 bog-standard Championship midfielders, then we could have. We didn't and so we haven't.

[Parsley]

Anyways, we have tabled a loan fee according to Miles Starforth:

 

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/newcastle-table-loan-offer-for-andros-townsend-1-8362329

[toon25]

In the meantime though, we've got that useless cunt Colback, who has proven in 7 months that he can't even hack this league never mind the Premiership.

 

I'm not disagreeing with those saying we shouldn't buy for the sake of buying, but we've still got glaring weaknesses in this squad that's costing us points. Players should have been identified a long time ago that could have been rlightnin to give us better options that we've got at the moment. What was it, £3 million for Hourihane and the same for that twat Lansbury? That's cheap considering the contribution they could have made in the short term.

[Guest chopey]

Just charge watford a £2 million loan fee for Krul and use that to pay for Townsend

[Foluwashola]

Villa needed to buy and have signed Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason and Bree. There's really no excuse for us not signing anyone like.

 

We probably don't need to buy tbh.

 

Not what the manager thinks though, which is surely the point.

 

The manager always wants more players, it's not a phenomenon restricted to Rafa.

[Parsley]

In the meantime though, we've got that useless c*** Colback, who has proven in 7 months that he can't even hack this league never mind the Premiership.

 

I'm not disagreeing with those saying we shouldn't buy for the sake of buying, but we've still got glaring weaknesses in this squad that's costing us points. Players should have been identified a long time ago that could have been rlightnin to give us better options that we've got at the moment. What was it, £3 million for Hourihane and the same for that t*** Lansbury? That's cheap considering the contribution they could have made in the short term.

Lansbury's also allegedly on around £40,000 a week at Villa, Hourihane on £28,000. Those are huge wages for Championship players who aren't particularly young and have no PL experience.

[Dave]

Villa needed to buy and have signed Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason and Bree. There's really no excuse for us not signing anyone like.

 

We probably don't need to buy tbh.

 

Not what the manager thinks though, which is surely the point.

 

The manager always wants more players, it's not a phenomenon restricted to Rafa.

 

They tend to be better informed than the know-nowt dickheads running our joint mind. When it's a proven winner, one of the best in the world saying it, it's probably worth listening.

[Superior Acuña]

If Rafa thinks we need a couple of players to secure promotion, in our current position, fucking buy them. End of story.

[Foluwashola]

Villa needed to buy and have signed Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason and Bree. There's really no excuse for us not signing anyone like.

 

We probably don't need to buy tbh.

 

Not what the manager thinks though, which is surely the point.

 

The manager always wants more players, it's not a phenomenon restricted to Rafa.

 

They tend to be better informed than the no-nowt dickheads running our joint mind. When it's a proven winner, one of the best in the world saying it, it's probably worth listening.

 

On this occasion though, I think most who have watched us this season will accept we have enough already to go up fairly comfortably.

 

Think we're all just a bit skitzy because of past failings. Doubt most external to NUFC would look at us sitting in 2nd position, chasing an England international, and think there's a manager not being backed.

 

It could all go tits up, it is NUFC after all, but dont see much wrong at present.

[Dave]

If Rafa thinks we need a couple of players to secure promotion, in our current position, fucking buy them. End of story.

 

Precisely.

[Hanshithispantz]

Firstly, we obviously aren't interested in Champ players because we can get promoted without buying them.

 

Secondly, yes Rafa wanted players like any manager does. But not managing to get the right ones doesn't mean Rafa is being screwed over.

I'm not saying he's been 'screwed over'. I just don't buy for one second that we failed to sign players purely for reasons out of our control - at best we've decided it's 'too expensive'. We've chose not to sign them and it's looking like the news coming out at the start of the window is true. Mike Ashley has form for this so I'm not sure why people find the concept so hard to believe.

 

From Caulkin:

 

Rafa has pushed for 2 additions and wanted them. That's of greater concern to me.

 

yeah, but Benitez hasn't been trying for what he would consider bad signings. I think he should have been backed.

 

I know because I've been told. Hopefully things will settle down - January is always a tense month.

 

(other bloke "I'm speculating that's the case. And that the "backing" would also have to come from MA. Not sure tbh.") has been an issue. Rafa has worked hard on transfers, permanents & loans. Anyway, let's see how next 24hrs plays out ...

 

(other bloke "any reason why we aren't just buying Townsend  now and saving ourselves £2m?") well I suppose the club would say that's an expensive outlay if they don't go up.

 

But aye, maybe I'm just a mentalist.

[Hanshithispantz]

yous don't get it like. Benitez wanted at least a couple of players. He's went on record saying he wants a winger and a central midfielder. He hasn't gotten any of them (he may get 1 if Palace bring down their price or we cave and pay up - providing the reports are true).

 

We only have 2 Championship quality central midfielders, you kna, the league we're actually in? Lansbury (c*** aye) would be a massive improvement and cost Villa a few million.

 

If Rafa wasn't being backed then we'd never have signed Murphy or Gamez.

 

Rafa himself has stressed several times that he only wants to bring people in if they will improve the squad and be able to step up next season, the lack of signings is probably indicative of the fact that players are unwilling to drop into the Championship or are not available for sale.

 

It's quite a slow window this January anyway as is evidenced in the fact that 7 PL teams haven't made a single signing yet. Usually incomings mean outgoings, teams wont be willing to let players go unless they have a replacement ready to bring in. We're possibly struggling to buy because clubs cannot replace the players we want.

 

Rafa wouldn't be walking out at SJP on Wednesday if Ashley had gone back on his word and as Ian correctly said earlier, there is no point worrying over something that may never happen.

Well aye, but he said that when he thought he was getting players in. I'm pretty sure he'd rather have "bog-standard Championship midfielders" going into the later half of the season than basically nobody whenever Shelvey misses a game.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

TBF I've just read Caulkin's timeline and he also says we might get Townsend still.

 

Anyway, nobody knows why we haven't made the signings and obviously with Ashley the fear will always be there. I just think we could be reading too much into this.

 

Also we've just had a transfer window where we did extremely well and overhauled the whole squad. That would suggest to me that our transfer team is working very well.

[Foluwashola]

It's like the good old days Ian. Good job we're always on the right side of history.

[Ronaldo]

TBF I've just read Caulkin's timeline and he also says we might get Townsend still.

 

Anyway, nobody knows why we haven't made the signings and obviously with Ashley the fear will always be there. I just think we could be reading too much into this.

 

Also we've just had a transfer window where we did extremely well and overhauled the whole squad. That would suggest to me that our transfer team is working very well.

 

Ian you thought we were reading too much into it when Carver was put in charge. Time for you to fucking wake up, mate.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

TBF I've just read Caulkin's timeline and he also says we might get Townsend still.

 

Anyway, nobody knows why we haven't made the signings and obviously with Ashley the fear will always be there. I just think we could be reading too much into this.

 

Also we've just had a transfer window where we did extremely well and overhauled the whole squad. That would suggest to me that our transfer team is working very well.

 

Ian you thought we were reading too much into it when Carver was put in charge. Time for you to fucking wake up, mate.

 

I wish I had total recall of all your historic opinions, you absolute dick. It should be easy because they'll all smug dismissals of someone else's point.

 

If your point is that nothing has changed at the club then I don't know why you're still even a fan.

[Foluwashola]

TBF I've just read Caulkin's timeline and he also says we might get Townsend still.

 

Anyway, nobody knows why we haven't made the signings and obviously with Ashley the fear will always be there. I just think we could be reading too much into this.

 

Also we've just had a transfer window where we did extremely well and overhauled the whole squad. That would suggest to me that our transfer team is working very well.

 

Ian you thought we were reading too much into it when Carver was put in charge. Time for you to fucking wake up, mate.

 

I wish I had total recall of all your historic opinions, you absolute dick. It should be easy because they'll all smug dismissals of someone else's point.

 

If your point is that nothing has changed at the club then I don't know why you're still even a fan.

 

Tbf his boycott did last until we won at least a couple of games on the bounce.

[jdckelly]

It could be Ashley said nope no need to sign players because he's a cheap bastard, it could be that they were trying to get something done on a limited budget because of last seasons spend, relegation, summer spend etc and failed or the level of player that is wanted isn't really interested in moving to the championship for 6 months. Personally I'm more of the thinking if you can get the right kind of player like Townsend great but I'm not exactly going to be outraged if nowt happens. The squad as it is should be good enough for promotion.