ponsaelius Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Honestly Sturridge is probably England's most naturally talented player. Nobody else in the squad can score a goal like the one he scored in the EL final. It's absolutely the right decision to gamble on taking him. Certainly over the likes of Carroll and Defoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Honestly Sturridge is probably England's most naturally talented player. Nobody else in the squad can score a goal like the one he scored in the EL final. It's absolutely the right decision to gamble on taking him. Certainly over the likes of Carroll and Defoe. Carroll would be one of the strongest in the air in the entire tournament and would be able to score goals that no one ens there could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 IMO you take Carroll over Rashford in that he injects the big man/target man role for Plan B/C. You also take Townsend over Barkley or Sterling or Lallana to play as the direct, pacy winger with an eye for goal and an unpredictable match winning left foot. Sturridge fit is the best striker in England IMO so I'm happy with his inclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 A 23-man squad should be like a toolbox, with players for different situations. You take fast players, wingers, tall strikers, versatile players, big-game players, set-piece specialists etc. A mix of form and reliabilty. Not only has Hodgson taken too many risks (taking ALL of Wilshere, Sturridge, Rashford and Barkley), there's no real plan B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 i'm on that thought process overall man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 If rashford played for Sunderland and Defoe played for man utd I wonder if which one would picked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 If rashford played for Sunderland and Defoe played for man utd I wonder if which one would picked I don't think Defoe would be very good if he played for Man Utd. Would have to be involved in build up play a lot more and wouldn't have the chance to get in behind the defence as much. He's not suited to playing for a big team IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Not only has Hodgson taken too many risks (taking ALL of Wilshere, Sturridge, Rashford and Barkley), there's no real plan B. Agreed. Wilshere, Sturridge & Henderson is a big risk. All could break down with no surprise. I just don't think Barkley is that good. If rashford played for Sunderland and Defoe played for man utd I wonder if which one would picked I don't think Defoe would be very good if he played for Man Utd. Would have to be involved in build up play a lot more and wouldn't have the chance to get in behind the defence as much. He's not suited to playing for a big team IMO Maybe we aren't counting them. But he has over 130 goals for Spurs. 90 in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Not only has Hodgson taken too many risks (taking ALL of Wilshere, Sturridge, Rashford and Barkley), there's no real plan B. Agreed. Wilshere, Sturridge & Henderson is a big risk. All could break down with no surprise. I just don't think Barkley is that good. If rashford played for Sunderland and Defoe played for man utd I wonder if which one would picked I don't think Defoe would be very good if he played for Man Utd. Would have to be involved in build up play a lot more and wouldn't have the chance to get in behind the defence as much. He's not suited to playing for a big team IMO Maybe we aren't counting them. But he has over 130 goals for Spurs. 90 in the PL. Based on that logic we should be taking Darren Bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Defoe's record wasn't even that good last season, just did enough to keep a shit team up. Rashford is only 18 and obviously has tge chance of a big international future, so it makes sense including him ahead of Defoe for me, but I'd have taken Carroll for obvious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I don't think Rashford would be going except for Welbeck's injury. He can take up those same wide positions quite effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Not only has Hodgson taken too many risks (taking ALL of Wilshere, Sturridge, Rashford and Barkley), there's no real plan B. Agreed. Wilshere, Sturridge & Henderson is a big risk. All could break down with no surprise. I just don't think Barkley is that good. If rashford played for Sunderland and Defoe played for man utd I wonder if which one would picked I don't think Defoe would be very good if he played for Man Utd. Would have to be involved in build up play a lot more and wouldn't have the chance to get in behind the defence as much. He's not suited to playing for a big team IMO Maybe we aren't counting them. But he has over 130 goals for Spurs. 90 in the PL. Based on that logic we should be taking Darren Bent. Did Darren Bent score 15 PL goals last season? Has Rashford played in a wide position for the first team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 If rashford played for Sunderland and Defoe played for man utd I wonder if which one would picked If Rashford was at Sunderland he would have been given 15 min on the wing before being dropped for not winning enough headers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I would have taken Carroll ahead of Rashford and Sturridge as well btw. Been in good form for West Ham since returning from injury, and when he's on his game, he's a nightmare for defenders. Why should England actually have real options to influence games, to try and win the tournament? Surely it's better to placate the pundits and media in order to avoid criticism for leaving out the household names. I honestly had hope for Hodgson. Hope he does well but with that selection he's looking at an early exit imo. Possibly even in the group stage. Which household names do you think he should've left out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I would have taken Carroll ahead of Rashford and Sturridge as well btw. Been in good form for West Ham since returning from injury, and when he's on his game, he's a nightmare for defenders. Why should England actually have real options to influence games, to try and win the tournament? Surely it's better to placate the pundits and media in order to avoid criticism for leaving out the household names. I honestly had hope for Hodgson. Hope he does well but with that selection he's looking at an early exit imo. Possibly even in the group stage. Which household names do you think he should've left out? Sturridge, Henderson and Wilshere IMO. Milner at a push, but I'd take him ahead of Drinkwater as I reckon the Leicester guys are absolutely shattered. I personally wouldn't rely too heavily on Rooney, but I would concede that Hodgson can't leave him out of the squad completely. I would probably start him alongside-ish Kane, and leave Vardy on the bench. Vardy playing on the left of 4231 is just moronic, and encapsulates everything that is wrong with Team England. Shoe-horning en vogue players for the fuck of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 just hope his head doesn't drop and he feels the need to join a premiership club. I think being dropped from the squad actually increases his chance of leaving. a good euros would have continued some feel good factor from rafa deciding to stay and may have inspired townsend to really give it a go in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I still cant see the point of Lallana !! what does he offer that Barclay, Ali, Milner, Henderson and Wilshere doesn't ? at least Townsend offers pace and the ability to get round the the outside of a team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 just hope his head doesn't drop and he feels the need to join a premiership club. I think being dropped from the squad actually increases his chance of leaving. a good euros would have continued some feel good factor from rafa deciding to stay and may have inspired townsend to really give it a go in the championship. He finished the season in a Premiership side in shit hot form and he still got omitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Well he's better than any of those playing out there tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 They certainly need the width he offers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Him with walker down the right should have been first choice. Typical bollocks choosing hardworkers instead of possible game changers. We'll do nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 just hope his head doesn't drop and he feels the need to join a premiership club. I think being dropped from the squad actually increases his chance of leaving. a good euros would have continued some feel good factor from rafa deciding to stay and may have inspired townsend to really give it a go in the championship. He finished the season in a Premiership side in s*** hot form and he still got omitted. Shit hot form ? 6 games unbeaten in which we played well in 1 game that counted for anything. His own personal form should have seen him in if only because he offers stuff we don't have on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Palace are going to offer £8m - triggering a release clause - according to the Mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-trigger-andros-townsends-8114831 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Palace are going to offer £8m - triggering a release clause - according to the Mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-trigger-andros-townsends-8114831 That would be utterly depressing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I wish Pardew would go and headbutt an oncoming train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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