Ryan Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Honestly can't get over the reaction to this. The desperation to be offended is probably my biggest hate in today's world. Aye. I'm all for negative press for the mackems but this has just been blown completely out of proportion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Racist, women beating, paedo lovers. Anymore to add the to the list for the mackems. Hoaxers. Racist, women beating, paedo loving , hoaxers... "Everybodys talkin' bout POP music...." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Honestly can't get over the reaction to this. The desperation to be offended is probably my biggest hate in today's world. Like I've said earlier though, maybe people's attitude's to side off the mark comments have changed to where they need to be considered as offences. I hate this reaction of that people are easily offended s****. Society is. thankfully putting people like Moyes in their place for such stupid comments. I genuinely don't think many people are offended at all. For some sense of importance they feel the need to pretend. Social media is absolutely full of faux outrage and this nonsense making the national news is a frightening insight into the state of our media. As Ricky Gervais said, "just because you are offended, does not make you right". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Honestly can't get over the reaction to this. The desperation to be offended is probably my biggest hate in today's world. Like I've said earlier though, maybe people's attitude's to side off the mark comments have changed to where they need to be considered as offences. I hate this reaction of that people are easily offended s****. Society is. thankfully putting people like Moyes in their place for such stupid comments. I genuinely don't think many people are offended at all. For some sense of importance they feel the need to pretend. Social media is absolutely full of faux outrage and this nonsense making the national news is a frightening insight into the state of our media. As Ricky Gervais said, "just because you are offended, does not make you right". That's true tbf. Most people i shared the link today were unimpressed by him. Guess it depends what angle you come from. Well it'll land him with a big FA fine in anycase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 In fact, I find that people have two personas nowadays. They have their social media life where they're the epitome of the perfect citizen then they have their normal life where they would laugh this kind of thing off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 There has to be some truth to that like, no way these twitter daft cunts bring some of their nonesense up around the dinner table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I should think the double standards would be yuge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 "I've apologised to the girl". Um, she's a grown woman David... Where did he say this? Clip on BBC he says "I spoke to the BBC reporter, who accepted my apology." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-4375614/David-Moyes-transcript-BBC-s-Vicki-Sparks-Read-full.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 96% certain to get relegated. Middlesbrough currently 80%, Hull 62%, Swansea 40% and Crystal Palace 8% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Diddling kids isn't worth talking about when the club played said diddler while knowing facts about the case.. but talk smack to a female journalist/reporter and that's when the club have gone too far!? Priorities eh! Pure madness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Personally I'm offended that people are offended at people getting offended. Probably my biggest hate in today's world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Diddling kids isn't worth talking about when the club played said diddler while knowing facts about the case.. but talk smack to a female journalist/reporter and that's when the club have gone too far!? Priorities eh! Pure madness I'm sorry, but that is a completely fucking retarded comment. The Johnson case received enormous press. The morally reprehensible fact that the mackems decided to play Johnson received wide condemnation. So to say it wasn't "worth talking about" is a flat out lie. Hope's article makes exactly the point that the current Moyes sexism scandal "do[es] not warrant any comparison with the unrepentant Johnson", which is exactly what your comment implies is happening. Hope also aims his spray at Sunderland not merely because of Moyes' comments, but because the club knew about it but "were happy for the whole affair to be swept under the carpet." If you think Moyes' comments weren't sexist, then I ask you this: would you tell a man you would slap him? If you say yes, I'm calling bullshit, because slapping is exclusively used as a threat (or action) against people weaker than yourself (usually women or children). Secondly, "even if you are a woman" implies that women in the workplace should be treated differently - and in the workplace this should never be the case. And if you don't see either of those two points, and throw your hands in the air and say "PC gone mad", then you are part of the reason cases like this need to be highlighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 He's bang out of order and needs holding to account. For all the distraction surrounding the gender of the reporter and whether he was joking, essentially he has threatened a reporter on camera. Surely we can agree that isn't acceptable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Surely offering to give her a slap (Scottish colloquialism) even if she is a woman is the ultimate equality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 He's bang out of order and needs holding to account. For all the distraction surrounding the gender of the reporter and whether he was joking, essentially he has threatened a reporter on camera. Surely we can agree that isn't acceptable? I think it's daft that sex is even brought up tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 He's bang out of order and needs holding to account. For all the distraction surrounding the gender of the reporter and whether he was joking, essentially he has threatened a reporter on camera. Surely we can agree that isn't acceptable? I think it's daft that sex is even brought up tbh. With all the dinosaurs floating about in football, I think it compounds a culture of sexism which a female reporter faces to have a Premier League manager making a threat, waggish or not, to a woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 But it'd be the same if he made it to a man, which he very well could have. He probably is a dinosaur but we'll get nowhere trying to hammer home that point as people are clearly sick of it. The major issue is that he threatened to slap a reporter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I think I'd agree if he didn't draw specific reference to her gender in said threat. Not especially fussed to argue the semantics Hopefully everyone can agree Sunderland should be punished by having him see out the season as manager anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag_in_NZ Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 He was never going to do it......has beaten much at all this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Can see Leicester filling their boots tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Racist, women beating, paedo lovers. Anymore to add the to the list for the mackems. Hoaxers. Racist, women beating, paedo loving , hoaxers... "Everybodys talkin' bout POP music...." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Even though I believe it's been a total hyperbole reaction, it is a sexist remark like. "Even if you are a woman..." "Even if you are a black man..." "Even if you are a frail old person..." Each one of them comments is drawing specific reference to someone's protected characteristic and the use of "even if" suggests that this person is inferior. Each of these comments should be treated in the same manner (sexist, racist, ageist) and you just cant say these things. Unless the lass comes forward and explains that it was a joke between them both, he should certainly get some sort of punishment for it. I just hope he doesn't get sacked, as he's doing a great job at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Honestly can't get over the reaction to this. The desperation to be offended is probably my biggest hate in today's world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 How ridiculous... I cannot even be arsed to delve into how stupid this is as there is simply no getting it through to some people. It's playground stuff almost. I think it's already been mentioned but the fact he says it to a reporter is the issue. Everyone is focusing on the sexism. If he would have said it to a man but not a woman is that not equally as sexist? It was a silly thing to say but it's only getting any traction because the reporter was a woman. That in itself is sexist reporting, surely. Or is this the same as when Black people call one another the N word? Modern hysteria over trivial shit...To think this was getting more news than the bomb or whatever in Russia on certain stations or tabloids. WTF is going on with people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Even though I believe it's been a total hyperbole reaction, it is a sexist remark like. "Even if you are a woman..." "Even if you are a black man..." "Even if you are a frail old person..." Each one of them comments is drawing specific reference to someone's protected characteristic and the use of "even if" suggests that this person is inferior. Each of these comments should be treated in the same manner (sexist, racist, ageist) and you just cant say these things. Unless the lass comes forward and explains that it was a joke between them both, he should certainly get some sort of punishment for it. I just hope he doesn't get sacked, as he's doing a great job at the minute. How is he suggesting she's inferior? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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