Benwell Lad Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Really strange how the press never really took the club and it's management to task about the way they handled the Johnson situation where an under age victim was abused, but see fit to make a huge song and dance about something as trivial as this. possibly couldnt about AJ for legal reasons? Not really. Well not after the verdict anyway. It was said that they were shown police evidence early in the proceedings but chose to carry on playing him. After the verdict they released a statement pretty much saying they would be making no further comment and Byrne took a fall. Thereafter the press and the FA hardly asked a question about who actually knew what or why they continued playing him despite the weight of the allegations. Them now making a huge thing of what was essentially an ill advised off the cuff remark seems rather strange in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Honestly can't get over the reaction to this. The desperation to be offended is probably my biggest hate in today's world. See, from my perspective it's people's overreactions and desperation to be offended about daft, trivial shite, that undermines stuff like this. It doesn't have to be life and death, like. You can't go around telling anyone in public, let alone women that you'll give them a slap, man, howeh. It doesn't mean I think he meant it, but he's apologised so obviously he's realised it was a daft slip of the tongue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Away to in-form Leicester tonight. Doesn't get any easier.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 COMMENT: Sunderland are poor on the field and incompetent off it http://dailym.ai/2nC1ukv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'm actually just going to wait until sassy women have had their say on the matter. They'll tell me what to think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/03/david-moyes-vicki-sparks-old-fashioned-sexism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 'If you stay in sunderland long enough, sunderland stays in you'. - Nietzsche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 There are more people offended by those offended. I blame Top Gear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Moyes should have said "watch your letterbox" but maybe she would have thought about receiving a nice gift through the post...So slap was more appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'm actually just going to wait until sassy women have had their say on the matter. They'll tell me what to think. I'm waiting to hear what savvywoman have to say myself. Sassy women probably would have sparked him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Poor Moyes, he'll be thinking "Fuck, what do I have to do to get sacked without being put away ?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Honestly can't get over the reaction to this. The desperation to be offended is probably my biggest hate in today's world. See, from my perspective it's people's overreactions and desperation to be offended about daft, trivial s****, that undermines stuff like this. It doesn't have to be life and death, like. You can't go around telling anyone in public, let alone women that you'll give them a slap, man, howeh. It doesn't mean I think he meant it, but he's apologised so obviously he's realised it was a daft slip of the tongue. Aye I hate the desperate to be offended culture as much the next person, but this is not one of those situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 It's not sexist like. In fairness to Moyes, he's saying she would get slapped in spite of being a woman. Equality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Honestly can't get over the reaction to this. The desperation to be offended is probably my biggest hate in today's world. See, from my perspective it's people's overreactions and desperation to be offended about daft, trivial s****, that undermines stuff like this. It doesn't have to be life and death, like. You can't go around telling anyone in public, let alone women that you'll give them a slap, man, howeh. It doesn't mean I think he meant it, but he's apologised so obviously he's realised it was a daft slip of the tongue. Aye I hate the desperate to be offended culture as much the next person, but this is not one of those situations. Did you see the woman from Wearside Women in Need or whatever the charity was? I'm pretty convinced she didn't even believe the shite she was coming out with. Reminded me of this: https://www.facebook.com/lars.kardel/videos/904792599596773/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 My take on this is that it sounds worse than it is. I assume Moyes, like many managers, set an acceptable line of questioning before the interview. The interviewer then deviated from that against his wishes by asking about Short being there, which may have specifically been on the "Don't ask me that" list. Moyes then after the interview is over reprimands her. He's trying to be playful yet firm at the same time, and yes he fucks that up by coming across as sexist and threatening instead. It's a misjudgement, but it's not what some people are suggesting it is. The "Be careful next time you come here" is just him saying "Stick to the questions next time". He's in the wrong, yes, and managers perhaps shouldn't be this dictatorial in what questions they'll answer, but it's a storm in a teacup IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I've got a feeling they're going to win tonight! I might hoy £10 on as they're 8/1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 My take on this is that it sounds worse than it is. I assume Moyes, like many managers, set an acceptable line of questioning before the interview. The interviewer then deviated from that against his wishes by asking about Short being there, which may have specifically been on the "Don't ask me that" list. Moyes then after the interview is over reprimands her. He's trying to be playful yet firm at the same time, and yes he f***s that up by coming across as sexist and threatening instead. It's a misjudgement, but it's not what some people are suggesting it is. The "Be careful next time you come here" is just him saying "Stick to the questions next time". He's in the wrong, yes, and managers perhaps shouldn't be this dictatorial in what questions they'll answer, but it's a storm in a teacup IMO. Does he really come across as sexist and threatening to anyone with an ounce of common sense though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Well, that's what they spent about an hour discussing on 5-Live yesterday. Sexist by referring to her gender, threatening by saying to be careful next time she comes to the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I've got a feeling they're going to win tonight! I might hoy £10 on as they're 8/1! no defoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I've got a feeling they're going to win tonight! I might hoy £10 on as they're 8/1! no defoe confirmed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 How ridiculous... I cannot even be arsed to delve into how stupid this is as there is simply no getting it through to some people. It's playground stuff almost. I think it's already been mentioned but the fact he says it to a reporter is the issue. Everyone is focusing on the sexism. If he would have said it to a man but not a woman is that not equally as sexist? It was a silly thing to say but it's only getting any traction because the reporter was a woman. That in itself is sexist reporting, surely. Or is this the same as when Black people call one another the N word? Modern hysteria over trivial shit...To think this was getting more news than the bomb or whatever in Russia on certain stations or tabloids. WTF is going on with people. Eh? Anyways, storm in a teacup or not, who goes around playfully telling people they'll get a slap in a professional setting? Are we in the 1950s? Regardless if it's said to a woman or a man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 My take on this is that it sounds worse than it is. I assume Moyes, like many managers, set an acceptable line of questioning before the interview. The interviewer then deviated from that against his wishes by asking about Short being there, which may have specifically been on the "Don't ask me that" list. Moyes then after the interview is over reprimands her. He's trying to be playful yet firm at the same time, and yes he f***s that up by coming across as sexist and threatening instead. It's a misjudgement, but it's not what some people are suggesting it is. The "Be careful next time you come here" is just him saying "Stick to the questions next time". He's in the wrong, yes, and managers perhaps shouldn't be this dictatorial in what questions they'll answer, but it's a storm in a teacup IMO. If he needs one of those, he's not cut out for interview's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I hope Moyes & his immediate family burn in hell for this. I haven't slept for three days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Poor Moyes, he'll be thinking "Fuck, what do I have to do to get sacked without being put away ?" That was my biggest worry, that it would provide Short with a get out clause to sack him without paying any compo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Another national paper has come out saying he has previous on this sort of thing towards women- didnt catch the name of the paper reported on 5 live. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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