Yorkie Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Typical side during the Championship campaign 2009/10: Harper Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Enrique Routledge, Nolan, Guthrie, Gutierrez Carroll, Lovenkrands Team that beat the Mackems 5-1/Arsenal 1-0 a few months later: Krul Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Enrique Barton, Tiote, Nolan, Gutierrez Carroll, Ameobi Literally only Tiote amongst the squad that season who was not in the squad prior. Why did we ever get rid of Hughton man His unlucky break (excuse the pun) was Ben Arfa breaking his leg after 4 games of his career here. His story here might've of be very different if he had him for a full season. Hughton was always destined for the chop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I wouldn't expect Rafa to be happy fighting it out for mid-table if we get promoted. I also can't imagine we'll sign the 6-7 players needed to be pushing higher. It's a tough one, can only assume some of the summer signings were supposed to comfortably make the jump up. Motn sure how many of them fit that bill... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 His unlucky break (excuse the pun) was Ben Arfa breaking his leg after 4 games of his career here. His story here might've of be very different if he had him for a full season. Nah, we were 11th (I think) when Hughton was sacked so it wasn't really a decision based on results - given that Pardew finishing in 12th was perfectly acceptable. Barton's autobiography offers pretty good insight into it, actually. In our Championship season Hughton was told who to play which created bad precedent with the players and as much as they liked him he didn't carry the weight (as Ashley and Llambias saw it) to convince them to accept the bonus-related pay scheme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 His unlucky break (excuse the pun) was Ben Arfa breaking his leg after 4 games of his career here. His story here might've of be very different if he had him for a full season. Nah, we were 11th (I think) when Hughton was sacked so it wasn't really a decision based on results. Barton's autobiography offers pretty good insight into it, actually. In our Championship season he was told who to play which created bad precedent with the players and as much as they liked him he didn't carry the weight (as Ashley and Llambias saw it) to convince them to accept the bonus-related pay scheme. Is there a fair bit of Newcastle in there? I'm hasten to pay £20 for that book, or whatever it costs. Imagine it would be decent fodder for the train, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 There's more about Newcastle than any other club, tbh. Just get one from eBay for £5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2017 and we still get subjected to Ameobi & Lua Lua as subs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 There's more about Newcastle than any other club, tbh. Just get one from eBay for £5. was gonna say, £20 for barton's book Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Expecting to finish second in the best of the rest league at the first time of asking is a bit much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 His unwillingness to change tactics for home games could be the reason we don't go up automatically. No idea what he sees when he is watching us, he obviously was aware of the issues considering who we tried to sign, but surely he should be changing something with the layers we have got, it's the same rubbish every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I find it incredible that someone with his experience don't see the need for a tactical change. We're dire and have been for quite some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I find it incredible that someone with his experience don't see the need for a tactical change. We're dire and have been for quite some time. He hasn't trained the players in any other formations yet. Only intelligent enough for one, and that's a struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I find it incredible that someone with his experience don't see the need for a tactical change. We're dire and have been for quite some time. He asked for two new players, and got zero new players. Not his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I find it incredible that someone with his experience don't see the need for a tactical change. We're dire and have been for quite some time. He asked for two new players, and got zero new players. Not his fault. The same team won 9 in a row or whatever it was. Now we can't string 9 passes together. He's a big part of the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I find it incredible that someone with his experience don't see the need for a tactical change. We're dire and have been for quite some time. He asked for two new players, and got zero new players. Not his fault. Carrying on with the 4-2-3-1 when teams negate it is his fault to be fair. He waits too long to change it up at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 He's been shite come match day, don't know why so many people can't see it. Blinded by reputation imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Stuck in a rut and he doesn't look to have the answers at the minute. Religiously sticking to the same formation is making us easy to combat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa rotated the players early in the season maybe that kept everyone on their toes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What's he actually working on with the team? We're regressing badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I find it incredible that someone with his experience don't see the need for a tactical change. We're dire and have been for quite some time. He hasn't trained the players in any other formations yet. Only intelligent enough for one, and that's a struggle. That formation is just about good enough when Diame and Gayle are starting. It goes to shit when they aren't. None of the players look confident in what they're doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 At what point is it ok to blame Rafa? Or at least partly? We're underachieving and quickly getting worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa rotated the players early in the season maybe that kept everyone on their toes. Injuries,and Acon, have reduced his ability to do this- the window would have been a chance to strengthen. Ashley has fucking blown it yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 We have our first class manager in years and he's working with one hand tied behind his back. He's not going to change system or his philosophy as unlike previous clowns it's actually brought him success at the highest level of game giving him a reason to believe what he's doing is actually right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 We have our first class manager in years and he's working with one hand tied behind his back. He's not going to change system or his philosophy as unlike previous clowns it's actually brought him success at the highest level of game giving him a reason to believe what he's doing is actually right. He's not like, he's spent a fortune. I know, £30m profit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Spent a fortune. Tonight he was forced to play a Cardiff/Bolton reject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 He's not at the highest level anymore and his tactics aren't working at the moment. What do you do? You mix it up, try something new. I don't give a fuck about his former success tbh. All that matter is here and now. I mentioned it in the other thread, but his stubbornness is so annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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