Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Obvious. Because you try to resolve problems before giving up and walking away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 It's not quite Keegan they've not got some one buying players behind his back. I think Rafa has control of purchases the issue sounds like Charnley and Co aren't getting the job done. Penny pinching which is costing us to miss out on players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Hope Rafa stays and takes on Ashley and I think he would do that. He didn't lie down at Liverpool and he isn't afraid to confront the hiarachy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Absolute fucken hell on when this bloke leaves because of the small minded muppets we have running this club. It'll be sheer apathy from me if it does go tits up like. I'm not one to flounce, but if it all ends in tears again due to those running the club to disastrous effect, I'll be making an effort to sack the whole lot off. It feels like a last chance saloon with Ashley et al for me anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On the brink. To win the first game, get three points and enjoy it. Our idea has to be one game at a time. To avoid relegation is a priority and after that to go as high as we can. Rafa joked on the transfer window: The worst part is to buy without money. Now he talks about the frustrations of the window: One thing I’m not happy with is to start playing games with the transfer window open. I don’t like this part of it. Now the prices are crazy and you cannot control it. The top sides have so much money. You go for an average player and the price is still crazy. It’s not realistic. Pocchettino is always thinking about that (the 5-1). Don’t say too much about it! I think that you have to take the positives from that. The fans can replicate the atmosphere - there’s no doubt about that. They have progressed for a couple of years but we are a new team in the league. It will be a tough game because they have experience and a great manager. On signings: We need to move players out and to bring players in, to improve the levels of the team. We will try to find something if we can and to ensure the team will be better. On Lucas Perez (this was said as a joke): I was talking with Arsene yesterday. He said ‘If you have some money, let me know’. It’s too soon to talk about that! I didn’t say any more than that. Rafa Benitez on BT Sport NOW: It’s an exciting time. We were fighting last year to be back and everyone’s really excited. I think it’s where Newcastle belong. It’s massive for the fans. You know the Championship - Newcastle deserve to be in the Premier League. You don’t want to be in the Championship but we were. The feeling from the fans is that we have to stick together and be united, and we will be stronger. They were amazing at home and away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I'd personally prefer he kept internal problems internal, yeah. Same as in my job... we don't tell the customers when we have internal disagreements. Only just read this bit now and honestly can't believe that you'd use that example as a fan. Football fans may be being treated like customers, but I didn't expect a fan to reference it like that as if there's any comparison from how we approach things. From my perspective we're fans, from the perspective of scum like Ashley, we're customers. Rafa knows there's a difference, fuck PR and how it looks, his honesty is one of the reasons why he's loved. He's not like Pardew and McLaren who'll trot out the party lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFlat Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On the brink. To win the first game, get three points and enjoy it. Our idea has to be one game at a time. To avoid relegation is a priority and after that to go as high as we can. Rafa joked on the transfer window: The worst part is to buy without money. Now he talks about the frustrations of the window: One thing I’m not happy with is to start playing games with the transfer window open. I don’t like this part of it. Now the prices are crazy and you cannot control it. The top sides have so much money. You go for an average player and the price is still crazy. It’s not realistic. Pocchettino is always thinking about that (the 5-1). Don’t say too much about it! I think that you have to take the positives from that. The fans can replicate the atmosphere - there’s no doubt about that. They have progressed for a couple of years but we are a new team in the league. It will be a tough game because they have experience and a great manager. On signings: We need to move players out and to bring players in, to improve the levels of the team. We will try to find something if we can and to ensure the team will be better. On Lucas Perez (this was said as a joke): I was talking with Arsene yesterday. He said ‘If you have some money, let me know’. It’s too soon to talk about that! I didn’t say any more than that. Rafa Benitez on BT Sport NOW: It’s an exciting time. We were fighting last year to be back and everyone’s really excited. I think it’s where Newcastle belong. It’s massive for the fans. You know the Championship - Newcastle deserve to be in the Premier League. You don’t want to be in the Championship but we were. The feeling from the fans is that we have to stick together and be united, and we will be stronger. They were amazing at home and away. Good words. Seems a lot more relaxed than is portrayed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He's talking live now - quotes here http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-news-transfers-live-13450339.amp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Rafa: I am fully committed Rafa was pressed by it on Dave Jones at Sky. “It’s very difficult (for me to walk away). My Chinese is not good enough. “No I try to do my best now. It has to be something you cannot control. At the moment I am fully commited to do the best that I can do now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 It really doesn't need to be this difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MSC26 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He's staying then. No doubt the papers will still be full of him leaving since he mentioned China. He done the same at the talk in, said he wouldnt really like China but they're offering mega money. Next Summer is the test if we stay up, he'll want seriously backed and things done quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Next summer is always the big test with this lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Was clearly unhappy with the market. Was talking about how a £25m striker isn't a £25m striker with everything all-in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Hard to take any positives from that interview tbh, he's clearly still angry and annoyed with the club, seems to me with him saying we are still trying, that he will see out the transfer window and make his decision based on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSC26 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Was clearly unhappy with the market. Was talking about how a £25m striker isn't a £25m striker with everything all-in. He said Ake (didnt name him, but said player who went to Bournemouth from Chelsea) cost £25m total once "commission" had been paid, as we were looking at him. £20m fee, £5m in commission...then wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-premier-league-launch-13451605 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Imagine if Dave Jones hadn't pushed him on the 'if I decide to stay' line though. Meltdown. Shows why we shouldn't latch on to his quotes either way because sometimes there is a language thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I don't see any chance he leaves until January at the earliest, probably not until next summer. It is frustrating for him but if it was untenable he would be gone already. He's going to see this season out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 "Airing our dirty linen in public"? Maybe if we'd done some fucking laundry over the last decade, there would be space in the laundry room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Sorry I'm a bit lost here; what did he say in the first place for this Jones guy to then ask for clarification? Can't watch/listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He said, 'if I decide to stay', but was talking in the past tense. Jones pulled him up on it then he said something like, 'yes I decide to stay etc'. Was just a language thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Full quotes from Rafa here. Rafa Benitez at the Premier League launch: Full transcript of his fascinating interview Newcastle United boss Rafa Benitez spoke about the club's return to the top flight live on Sky this morning - and his future It was Premier League launch day in London and Newcastle played a huge part in a day when top flight rights holders were granted access to celebrate the return of one of the most exciting leagues in the world. Rafa Benitez , Jacob Murphy and Matt Ritchie were Newcastle’s representatives – with the Newcastle boss speaking live on Sky Sports on Wednesday morning to preview the start of United’s return to the top flight. Newcastle are one of the teams featured in the first weekend of the season’s live games, with United’s home match against last season’s runners-up Tottenham on Sky on Sunday. Benitez has been frustrated by some of United’s activity in the transfer market so far but he is looking forward to the big kick-off against Spurs. This morning he spoke of the potential struggle for Newcastle as they head into a return to the Premier League following their Championship title win – and also about the supporters and how they can help Newcastle in what is going to be a difficult season. He spoke live to Sky’s David Jones on Sky, taking questions about transfers, United’s expectations and what will happen next season. Here are some of the highlights of the interview. Rafa on improving from last season: “The Championship is quite complicated but we did well. The teams, the fans, the city were together and that was crucial for us. “We had good players. The fans, we had 52,000 fans every game at home and especially the fans away - everyone was pushing. The staff, the club - everyone was trying to achieve what we wanted to achieve. Only 33% of teams go back up first season, it’s quite complicated. If you don’t go up, it’s even more difficult because there is more pressure. Rafa on the team - and trying to improve it: “The team is fine. Still we can improve - every manager wants to improve. But we have a good team and we’ll see if we can improve the squad a little bit. The Premier League is a massive challenge, it’s another level. “It’s very hard. The prices are crazy. We missed some targets at the beginning and I think we are paying for that but hopefully we can find solutions to bring what we need. Sometimes it’s not what you want, it’s what you need and what you can afford now. “It’s quite difficult for every team but especially the ones that do not have as much money as the others. The teams at the top have put the prices so high that if you go for average players they ask for big money, big commission, big wages. Everything is more difficult. “Somtimes you have to sign what you can. Then it’s a tricky question because if you sign players people will say ‘Is it the player you wanted?’ Maybe it’s the fifth on the list but he’s still your player and you have to support him and make sure he’s good enough. “We are trying to do our business.” Rafa on his future: “The story is as I said before we missed some targets at the beginning and now we are trying to do our best with what’s available. “I can read our fans saying ‘Listen, now will sign a £25million striker’. We cannot. Sometimes they are not available. But if they are available the price is not £20million, the wages are not the same, and the commission of the agents is huge. I think we will try to do our best in the conditions that we are (in). I am not happy. I am not happy with it but at the same time for me, it’s a challenge and I will try to do my best. If I decide to stay, it’s for the city, the fans, the stature of the club, to stay in England and in the Premier League. So I want to do my best but obviously every manager wants to improve. I’m happy with the players I have. The team spirit is quite good and hopefully we replicate that this season. Rafa clarifies that qoute - and whether he’ll walk away: “No, I decided to stay. When I decided to stay it’s because for me it’s a challenge. For me, I’m not totally happy with what we did but I will try to do my best, working very hard with people at the club to try and improve what we have at the moment. “It’s very difficult (for me to walk away). My Chinese is not good enough. “No I try to do my best now. It has to be something you cannot control. At the moment I am fully committed to do the best that I can do now. Rafa on NUFC target for the season: “The first thing is to try and be sure we don’t go back to the Championship - but with ambition. “Ambition is every game for us will be a challenge for us to get three points and we’ll see how high we go in the table. But I can’t say ‘Oh, we’ll be in the top eight’. Fans will say ‘Fantastic, he is ambitious.’ But I’m very realistic. Let’s be sure we do very well every game and we’re out of the bottom three positions and then see where we go.” Will Rafa get anyone in before Sunday? With the transfer window open until the end of August, you can still bring players but before the game, you bring anyone in and they will be available for game. “But they would need to know our tactics and I don’t think we would have time to do that. But if we bring someone in before the end (of the week), it will be a boost for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Next summer is always the big test with this lot Yyyip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He staying now sign the players we need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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