mickthemagpie Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Looks like we're doomed as nobody seems to think Raffa does winning runs and that's exactly what we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I assume he's went on quite a lot of winning runs given he's won trophies like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 The problem isn't injuries or formations, tactics etc.. none of it. The problem is that 90% of our squad literally don't give a shit. They're absolute professionals at giving the right sound bytes to the media but they couldn't care less about this club. Coloccini is the captain.. the one all the others have followed. By the time Rafa manages to drive a wedge between Colo and the rest that follow him, the season will be over. He'll be furious about it.. as it was well within his skills to win games as a manager.. he's just dealing with a particular bunch of bad eggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Just read on rawk, that it was the club that insisted on his relegation clause and not Rafa. Not sure how much truth there is to that, b ut thought it was worth sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I love the man and I love the fact he took on the challenge, but I find it a bit too romantic to believe he'd want to stick around after relegation. His rep will not have taken too big a hit trying to save a club that was already circling the bowl and there will be a lot of opportunities out there. Would be amazing mind but I don't see it. The regime would probably force him out anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 How would they know, though? Friends of his time there? "If you have LFCTVGo, you can hear it too on Press Box from Tuesday night. John Richardson of the Sunday Express, and Geordie supporter, said that is what he heard from his sources. That the club insisted on the clause and not Rafa." I love the man and I love the fact he took on the challenge, but I find it a bit too romantic to believe he'd want to stick around after relegation. His rep will not have taken too big a hit trying to save a club that was already circling the bowl and there will be a lot of opportunities out there. Would be amazing mind but I don't see it. The regime would probably force him out anyway. It's more the fact, the club should be doing everything to keep him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Has he actually been appointed a director at companies house etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 The relegation release clause always sounded like it was mutual. I'm sure they mentioned when he signed, that either party can choose to activate the clause. Rafa can walk, or the club can get rid of him for free. That would just be the worst. Rafa says he was actually keen to stay and the club decide he's too expensive and wants too much power. I think if we're being honest with ourselves. Both the club and Benitez, will be happy to go a different direction, when we're relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Has he actually been appointed a director at companies house etc? That wasn't due to happen until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Not a chance he stays on when we are relegated, sadly. It won't even be part of the clubs thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 They think we could employ any helmet and get promoted, for less money. Hughton we got very lucky with, doesn't mean it will happen again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 It wasn't long ago that people were saying that we'd never get him here as manager. I wouldn't write him off for next season, no matter which division we're in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Has he actually been appointed a director at companies house etc? That wasn't due to happen until the end of the season. I realise it isn't a big task (admin wise, to get it done), but it says a lot imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Not a chance he stays on when we are relegated, sadly. It won't even be part of the clubs thinking. I agree with this. I think Rafa would fancy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Has he actually been appointed a director at companies house etc? That wasn't due to happen until the end of the season. I realise it isn't a big task (admin wise, to get it done), but it says a lot imo. It says we have a clause that either side can activate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Not a chance he stays on when we are relegated, sadly. It won't even be part of the clubs thinking. I agree with this. I think Rafa would fancy it. Don't get your hopes up, man. We're fucked. That's the spirit, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Rafa stays with us, we are leading the Championship then in February 2017, a big club comes in for him. We blow a big lead, lose in the Championship playoff final against the mackems, Rafa wins the Champions league, and Pardew gets a new job at Harchester United. My crystal ball is fucked up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Has he actually been appointed a director at companies house etc? That wasn't due to happen until the end of the season. I realise it isn't a big task (admin wise, to get it done), but it says a lot imo. It says we have a clause that either side can activate. maybe i'm being overly negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 The club desperately need someone like Rafa though as it needs to be overhauled from top to bottom. None of the previous incumbents have shown any interest in the rest of the club beyond the first team (maybe it was not in the job description) but the club is failing at every level and although they have often talked up the Academy and U21s, they are massively underachieving as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go for a quick fix as usual rather than seeing the bigger picture. Keeping Rafa on would be a sign that they are serious about change for once. However it would be just like us to have Rafa say he would stay and then for us to turn him down. If he really wants to work in this country, then he has very limited options so if he is given carte blanche to run the club as he sees fit then maybe .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 It took Keegan a good few games (8?) to get his first win when he came back. Unfortunately Rafa hasn't had the instant success that sometimes happens when a new manager is appointed. Who would consider Benitez's reputation as a manager damaged if Newcastle are relegated? It was always big ask anyway to keep us up. If anything his reputation should be enhanced for having the balls to take the job on. If another club were put off appointing him because he didn't manage to save Newcastle then the jokes on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Just out of interest..... any reason why Alan Shearer is criticised for "taking" us down and Rafa, seemingly, would not be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Just out of interest..... any reason why Alan Shearer is criticised for "taking" us down and Rafa, seemingly, would not be? Narrative. Local hero fails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I'm of the opinion that Rafa probably wants to stay here, but he doesn't really fancy a season in the championship because for a manager of his calibre that could damage his reputation. That said, I think that he wants to be here because we are a similar club to Liverpool and that is the environment he really seems to thrive on. So I wouldn't be that surprised if he stayed on - if anything it's us who would throw a spanner in the works because that's what we do best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Why did NUFC even want a termination clause? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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