Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I really don't understand fans that want Deeney. Already two suspensions this season. He's discipline is same as Mitrovic's and his goal record isn't impressive at all. Bringing Deeney and getting rid of Mitrovic is not a smart move. It's like getting an older version of Mitrovic. Deeney's ill discipline this season looks more like being due to frustration due to not being used as much anymore. I mean he was the captain of this team and came up with them, and so I can see how he would be feeling that way. Mitrovic is just a loose cannon that does dumb stuff regardless of his situation or circumstance. Big difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. nothing to suggest he can't replicate a point a game in the remaining 16 that would possibly be enough to keep us up. I'd actually argue we might be in a better position than others around us because Rafa has clearly been protecting a number of players and rotating heavily which might benefit us later in the season. He knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I really don't understand fans that want Deeney. Already two suspensions this season. He's discipline is same as Mitrovic's and his goal record isn't impressive at all. Bringing Deeney and getting rid of Mitrovic is not a smart move. It's like getting an older version of Mitrovic. Deeney's ill discipline this season looks more like being due to frustration due to not being used as much anymore. I mean he was the captain of this team and came up with them, and so I can see how he would be feeling that way. Mitrovic is just a loose cannon that does dumb stuff regardless of his situation or circumstance. Big difference. This sentence could just as easy be applicable to Mitrovic, tbf Not saying it's his excuse, but if you're willing to justify Deeney's discipline with said statement, then you have to be willing to apply that to Mitrovic too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Nope ... Mitrovic was a nut from the first time he was used. Ruined his chance to settle in by getting sent off in what his first appearance for the club? It's nothing alike you silly person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. nothing to suggest he can't replicate a point a game in the remaining 16 that would possibly be enough to keep us up. I'd actually argue we might be in a better position than others around us because Rafa has clearly been protecting a number of players and rotating heavily which might benefit us later in the season. He knows. Yeah, I'd also argue that our team mentality/spirit has thus far not reflected that of a loosing/struggling side - despite the winless streak we went on. A positive, never-say-die team spirit can and has been the difference between relegation and survival, even when the squad may be short of quality in comparison with the teams in and around. I put that down to Benitez alone and his choice of players such as Ritchie, Perez, Lascelles, who whilst they have their technical/physical downsides, just never stop trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Nope ... Mitrovic was a nut from the first time he was used. Ruined his chance to settle in by getting sent off in what his first appearance for the club? It's nothing alike you silly person. You don't know though really do you? You're choosing a positive assumption in favour of Deeney, and a negative assumption to the detriment of Mitrovic. Unless you have evidence that Deeney's ill-discipline is due to frustration alone, and Mitrovic's is simply down to malice, then I would suggest it is you who is in fact a silly boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Well prior to this season I don't think Deeney has had these issues. He was captain of Watford and seemed to have been a reliable and dedicated performer for them. It's just this season this has come up, which is why I stated what I did in his favour. Mitrovic has let us down so often man. It prevented him from nailing down the centre forward spot when he first joined as he immediately served a suspension, and even when we went down also, as he was serving a suspension then too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. nothing to suggest he can't replicate a point a game in the remaining 16 that would possibly be enough to keep us up. I'd actually argue we might be in a better position than others around us because Rafa has clearly been protecting a number of players and rotating heavily which might benefit us later in the season. He knows. Yeah, I'd also argue that our team mentality/spirit has thus far not reflected that of a loosing/struggling side - despite the winless streak we went on. A positive, never-say-die team spirit can and has been the difference between relegation and survival, even when the squad may be short of quality in comparison with the teams in and around. I put that down to Benitez alone and his choice of players such as Ritchie, Perez, Lascelles, who whilst they have their technical/physical downsides, just never stop trying. Totally agree, said during that shitty run that we didn't look like a beaten team, a team on the decline or a team where the players aren't playing for the manager. I really hope we don't have to find out but have said all along I've thought we'd stay up even with the garbage squad we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Oh we'll have to find out. No team goes through as many inactive windows as us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Ah, just seen the Viera link. No chance with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 £20m for Troydini so we can write that one off. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5236593/Watford-want-sell-Deeney-replace-Afobe.html#ixzz53G5Uf7pG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 £20m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 It's only funny because we'll obviously never spend that. That's not a crazy fee. I find it funnier that they want to replace him with Benik Afobe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 IMO its a silly fee for a lad who has scored a goal every 4 games for the last one and a half seasons and barely plays at all for a side 3 points above us. Then again why would Watford want to sell to a club 3 points below them for a reasonable fee? Better just to spend that money elsewhere if we have it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 29 years old and bolted to your bench and you want £20 million Man clubs are losing their minds out here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 20M! Who are they trying to kid? It's not so much the player he is but the fact that they've signed up to pay him 100,000 a week till 2021. Aging non-first teamers on long tasty contracts are liabilities, not assets. The fee has to reflect that. As a player he'd improve us, but the fee would have to be low and he'd have to take a pay cut. If that's not on, Watford can merrily continue giving him five million a year and he can continue sitting on their bench watching his "Watford legend" status evaporate and generally stinking the place out, which he will if he's on that much and not playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 That's the sort of price we're going to get quoted for basically any player in the PL. If we're on a limited budget (if ) we're best off looking to some of the other decent European leagues. edit: He's on £100k a week?? Troy Deeney? Insanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Troy Deeney? Fucking hell. Just no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 29 years old and bolted to your bench and you want £20 million Man clubs are losing their minds out here. Great Phil Margera reference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Deeny has always looked a fatty .never liked him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Deeny has always looked a fatty .never liked him Here’s to a hat trick on his debut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexumaster Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I wouldn't take him for any less than 7m and that obviously won't happen. I think he'd show more strength than any of our forwards, but as others have pointed out, it's been misplaced aggresion this season and it seems Rafa isn't keen on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jong24 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Mitrovic > Deeney and it’s not even close Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Mitrovic > Deeney and it’s not even close Righto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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