Altamullan Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Love to see a defensive midfielder who can stop a run with a tackle rather than pulling his man down. And he makes contact with the ball, with his actual foot, before...aye before ... he makes contact with the man with his hands! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 This young lad is so strong in the tackle The way he won the ball and ran up to give Diame support before slotting him in was something Colback wouldn't be able to do. He's actually faster than I thought he would be as well, at least dynamic enough to bring the ball out of tight situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 For all the grief that Colback gets, this kid is utter shite as well mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 For all the grief that Colback gets, this kid is utter s**** as well mind. :lol: Might be the worst post I've read in the last 24 hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Puts in some excellent tackles but his passing lets him down sometimes (like yesterday). Think he's okay personally, especially at this level, he's young and could easily become a decent PL player under the right coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Great player but asking too much of him to be a creative spark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leek Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I think hes a good player, hes good at winning the ball back and not afraid to put a tackle in and isnt afraid to come further up the pitch at times. Hes got a lot to learn still and makes sloppy mistakes but its not like he doesnt contribute so I dont think he deserves much criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 For all the grief that Colback gets, this kid is utter s**** as well mind. [emoji38] Might be the worst post I've read in the last 24 hours What does he do? He makes some decent tackles at times but also misses an awful lot and his passing/use of the ball is awful. He does an ok job at this level and admittedly he was better at the start of the seaaon but he's nowhere near PL quality from what i've seen from both then and now. Still young so arguably may improve but we desperately need a better 'destroyer' if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Even if I agreed with you, which I don't, he's 21 ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 To even say he's as 'utter shit' as Colback is just mind boggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I like Hayden but he had a poor game yesterday. The issue I think he has is he's unsure where to position himself when he plays next to Cactus Jack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I like him, was doing the job of two yesterday, so never going to get it all right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 He's OK. Pretty good at breaking up the play and playing a short pass to a more creative player than he is. Playing alongside Colback does him no favours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 To even say he's as 'utter s***' as Colback is just mind boggling. I didn't say he's as utter s**** as Colback, I did say that he's s***e and for all the grief Colback gets, Hayden is also extremely poor IMO and the point I was trying to make is that Hayden gets away without criticism. It's all well and good pointing the finger at Colback being awful but you can't then forgive others for offering very little either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Was awful yesterday and all. Him & Colback will hopefully never be seen on the pitch together again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The reason that one gets stick and the other doesn't is probably because 1. I don't think everyone agrees that Hayden's been 'extremely poor' in the same way that everyone does with Colback, not even slightly. 2. Even if everyone did agree that he's been extremely poor, he's 21, came from Arsenal, got promoted with Hull, has been improving this season, has played like 20 matches and is being given a chance. Colback is 27, came from Sunderland, we've seen him play over 75 times for us, over 100 times for Sunderland, and is probably even worse now than he was in the Premier League. In that situation where they're both extremely poor (again, I don't agree that Hayden's been poor at all) one's on the way up and the other's on the way down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hayden won several tackles in important positions leading to attacks yesterday and usually does, which is why Rafa likes him so much. The problem is that he's extremely limited on the ball and when asked to play a little bit out of the realms of his comfort zone in lieu of Shelvey he was always going to be found wanting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 To even say he's as 'utter s***' as Colback is just mind boggling. I didn't say he's as utter s**** as Colback, I did say that he's s***e and for all the grief Colback gets, Hayden is also extremely poor IMO and the point I was trying to make is that Hayden gets away without criticism. It's all well and good pointing the finger at Colback being awful but you can't then forgive others for offering very little either. sounds like something Colback's mam would say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hayden won several tackles in important positions leading to attacks yesterday and usually does, which is why Rafa likes him so much. The problem is that he's extremely limited on the ball and when asked to play a little bit out of the realms of his comfort zone in lieu of Shelvey he was always going to be found wanting. I don't think he's limited on the ball at all. I think that he's got a decent range of passing on him, he's just not somebody to rely on to create things for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 To even say he's as 'utter s***' as Colback is just mind boggling. I didn't say he's as utter s**** as Colback, I did say that he's s***e and for all the grief Colback gets, Hayden is also extremely poor IMO and the point I was trying to make is that Hayden gets away without criticism. It's all well and good pointing the finger at Colback being awful but you can't then forgive others for offering very little either. You said Hayden was utter shit, as well as Colback. Anyway if you can't see that Hayden recently is having to do the job of two midfielders in his first proper season as a first team regular at the age of 21 and think we should be beating him with the same stick as Colback then there's not much point in this 'debate'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thought he had some good moments, particularly defensively/when we were without the ball. Less good attacking wise, but the lad has balls, was up against a physical side and kept getting stuck in. Average game, rather than a shocker, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 He was a bit loose with his passing yesterday, but that was out of character I thought. He's generally pretty tidy, but it was always likely to impact his game having Colback to work off instead of Shelvey. If you judge him purely as a defensive midfielder, he does that job really well because he's quick and strong in the tackle. That's why you won't see him tugging shirts of players who are running away from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 He was a bit loose with his passing yesterday, but that was out of character I thought. He's generally pretty tidy, but it was always likely to impact his game having Colback to work off instead of Shelvey. If you judge him purely as a defensive midfielder, he does that job really well because he's quick and strong in the tackle. That's why you won't see him tugging shirts of players who are running away from him. He keeps pace and you can see him biding his time just right for those strong tackles. He was a little sloppy yesterday. Not shit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Given his passes actually try to influence the play and move the team forward on occasion it should come as no great surprise less find their man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Was trying to play the Shelvey role at times and failed miserably. It's not his game and he'll be fine next to a creative player again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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