Jayson Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 People love just blaming the same people all the time, regardless of performance He was better today at times, he still lost the ball in the build up to their goal. We were attacking and he got caught. That was Perez No the build up to them getting the ball in the first place before we cleared it to go on the counter when Perez was then caught was due to Diame also losing it. Both of them made errors that cost us. To be honest whoever passed it to Perez probably made a dodgy choice given he was under pressure and they know what he's like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 He's lost his athleticism and the ability to beat players, not nice to watch him try like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 People love just blaming the same people all the time, regardless of performance Yes - when they're s***. What did he do that badly tonight? He gassed badly obviously around 60 minutes in but up until then he was probably as good/better than basically all our team bar Shelvey, Atsu and the centre halves - Miles off the pace. - Leaving huge gaps when 'closing' down which was actually just a general stroll in the direction of the man/ball. - Poor distribution. - Biggest bloke in the midfield and had no presence nor could he win a header. - Slower than a two wheeled tanker. He got nutmegged a couple times in our half which put us in shit situations aswell. Hayden would just take the man and ball. But not Big Mo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 What did he do that badly tonight? He gassed badly obviously around 60 minutes in but up until then he was probably as good/better than basically all our team bar Shelvey, Atsu and the centre halves He overhit and underhit simple passes all night giving the player receiving the ball less time on it, which is critical against pressing teams like Burnley. He gave the ball away stupidly at least two times, one nearly leading to a clear cut chance. Just those things alone are enough. Hayden, Shelvey & Merino are much sharper mentally, physically & technically. No reason for him to play, he's not good enough. I agree he shouldn't play. I just think we had much much bigger issues tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 What did he do that badly tonight? He gassed badly obviously around 60 minutes in but up until then he was probably as good/better than basically all our team bar Shelvey, Atsu and the centre halves He overhit and underhit simple passes all night giving the player receiving the ball less time on it, which is critical against pressing teams like Burnley. He gave the ball away stupidly at least two times, one nearly leading to a clear cut chance. Just those things alone are enough. Hayden, Shelvey & Merino are much sharper mentally, physically & technically. No reason for him to play, he's not good enough. I agree he shouldn't play. I just think we had much much bigger issues tonight Fair enough. I think our biggest problem tonight was players in certain key positions not being good enough. Diame was one of them. Joselu another. We were set up well, Shelvey was clearly the best player on the park but we need someone next to him to free him up, it's crucial. He's our most important player and can win games like this with the room. Diame isn't a good enough or assured enough player to free Shelvey up, Merino is brilliant at it, Hayden good at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 It wasn't really a powerful performance tonight at all. He's much more powerful than he showed tonight but clearly doesn't have the legs or the stomach for it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leek Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 He looked good for the first 25 minutes then did absolutely nothing after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 He looked good for the first 25 minutes then did absolutely nothing after. Almost as though his legs went or something... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Fine until about the 60th minute. s**** after that Aye. Was pretty decent.. then he was terrible. Mind Shelvey's levels also dropped at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He is what he is at this stage. His pace and drive went years ago. Literally all he had as a player. He's Amdy Faye 2.0 without it. Nah. He can be much better on the ball than a Hayden and more proactive at breaking up play/interceptions. Seems only useful 30-60mins tops though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He was pretty decent 1st half. Then his legs went. No need for the vitriol imo. He should have been subbed when he tired. He wasn't. Not his fault. His age has caught up with him and he can only go for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He hasn't got the stamina to start games. He should only ever be a sub IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He hasn't got the stamina to start games. He should only ever be a sub IMO. Well, yesterday says different. He started and was fine for the 1st half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He hasn't got the stamina to start games. He should only ever be a sub IMO. Well, yesterday says different. He started and was fine for the 1st half. No it doesn't So you're saying it's ok for a player to start even if he can only last 45 minutes? It's a waste of a sub. He'd be better coming on with 20 minutes to go so he'd be up against tired opponents and less risk of him tiring himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He hasn't got the stamina to start games. He should only ever be a sub IMO. Well, yesterday says different. He started and was fine for the 1st half. No it doesn't So you're saying it's ok for a player to start even if he can only last 45 minutes? It's a waste of a sub. He'd be better coming on with 20 minutes to go so he'd be up against tired opponents and less risk of him tiring himself. Last night's options were Colback or an apparently injured Hayden. Judging by Diame's performance i could see no problem starting him. He should have come off sooner imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He hasn't got the stamina to start games. He should only ever be a sub IMO. Well, yesterday says different. He started and was fine for the 1st half. No it doesn't So you're saying it's ok for a player to start even if he can only last 45 minutes? It's a waste of a sub. He'd be better coming on with 20 minutes to go so he'd be up against tired opponents and less risk of him tiring himself. Last night's options were Colback or an apparently injured Hayden. Judging by Diame's performance i could see no problem starting him. He should have come off sooner imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I assume Rafa didn't trust him to start and be any better than Diame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 But aye, i did forget about him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Get rid please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Very disappointing signing and expected much more. Wasn't much cop in the Championship and has been woeful this season. Should flog him if we can in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I thought he was better than he had been yesterday. Not saying much like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Is Saivet really that bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 He did less of his walking around and actually ran a few times but he seemed unlucky and clumsy yesterday. I am sure 2 maybe 3 times he tackled back it actually pinged off his shins putting them through on our defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Is Saivet really that bad? Not sure, but it seems we will never find out as it is another player Rafa has a cob on with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Is it true that only his mother loves him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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