TenkoDaLuz Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Oh come on, losing already? :-S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Worse part about this is the stick off the Mackems in the office I'll get, "wheeyyyyyyy Rafalution eh" FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 More upset with the performance than the result really. I could have taken a one-nil loss in the first game and crossed it off as first game of the season, getting to know systems and stuff. But outside the penalty claims we were pretty abject. Rafa got too many selection decisions wrong for me and too many players didn't play up to their so called pedigree in this division. Signs are not good from the first game. Maybe blessing in disguise to insure we do more work in the transfer market. Agree with this - I never expected a walkover in this league and would have been happy with a draw from the first away game because it takes time to gel a side when so many new faces have come in.. remember, the 92/93 side and the 2009/10 side had very few additions from the side which was relegated and were consistent from day one. However, there is no doubting the disappointment and rightly-held concern that many fans will be feeling after this game because we never looked like winning it apart from the penalty claims, one of which was outside the area anyway and another which we would have complained about had it been given against NUFC. There was a lack of creativity from m/f(Colback and Anita were dreadful, agree that Rafa cocked this up by selecting them)and the lack of physical presence up front made it easy for Fulham to break up our attacks before we got into their area. For me, only Ritchie looked the part up front and Perez was constantly muscled out of it...Gayle disappeared after a decent start and I was dreading the corner that Fulham scored from because we have given away so many goals from set-pieces in pre-season. Much as I like Lascelles, if the side were told to zonal mark instead of man-mark, the blame for the free header must go down to him as he was the nearest CD to the player. I felt that we had lost from the ,moment they scored because we weren't looking convincing as an attacking force at all and as events proved we failed to score despite many subs. We desperately need a creative m/f player AND a decent striker with physique...neither will come cheap and may be difficult to obtain as we have seen with Knockaert. Vital that 3 points come from the Huddersfield game now - another defeat, especially at home, would cause a loss of confidence both on and off the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 We were poor no doubt but we'll get there. We're in desperate need of a midfielder who will pass the ball forward properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Kidding ourselves and not realising how bad some of our players are. A team with dummett and colback in will not be winning any league! Centre midfield has been a problem for ages and still looks weak. We need a left back a creative midfielder and a goalscorer or this could be a hard season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I think the pressure got to some of the players, with that build-up of how we were odds-on favourites to win the league. Fulham weren't that good but they did at times play with more freedom. Gayle did well in the sense of making the best of some difficult, isolated situations that he found himself in. Ayoze carried on his bad form from last season. He's trying to do something dramatic every time he gets the ball. Despite the fact that we were trying to play the ball on the deck a lot of the time, we rarely worked the ball into the space between their defence and midfield. The link between centre mid and attack wasn't really there, and maybe Diame will improve that. The build-up was usually quite deliberate so their defence was able to block our chances when they came. On another day, we could have had two pens and the opposition would have been down to 10 men after 20 minutes. But the ref wasn't strong enough to punish the home team, and that's what we might come across again in this division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 We were poor no doubt but we'll get there. We're in desperate need of a midfielder who will pass the ball forward properly like shelvey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 We (mainly Colback) again conceded too many soft free kicks in what should have been non threatening positions inside our own half. We again conceded from a set piece and again conceded just before HT, last season all over. We were again too slow in our build making us easier to become organised against and we still need creativity in central midfield. Shelvey should be that player but it seems apparent he's not going to be, both Anita and Colback need the boot leaving Hayden and Diame neither of who are creative. I know there is still talk of Knockaert but imo we need a creative midfield player and another striker more than another wide player. Perez wasn't at the races last night and Gayle doesn't look like he will be effective up top by himself. All in all, worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Welcome to last season. That was fucking rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I was trying to look for positives after the game last but I'm more mad than anything else this morning, hopefully the players are the same. The mackems seem to be outdoing themselves on social media since as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 We are so lop sided with Ritchie our only real outlet I think Townsend will be a huge miss this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 The only positive I can take is that it may spur is on to make some more investment, plus it will kill the high level of expectations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Hanley seems to be getting a lot of stick, but for me he was the better player of the two centrebacks. Lascelles was shocking last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Yep. Hope we're not going to be 'black and white' in our thinking though, and go straight from idealisation of Rafa and unrealistic 'sow's ear to silk purse' optimism to he doesn't know what he's doing, it is all shite. First loss out the way, at Fulham (quell surprise) let's crack on with the task at hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Could we please take Ayoze off taking set pieces please? Absolutely horrible delivery. That corner when Ritchie played it short to him was a complete cluster-fuck. And don't let Shelvey take it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 The players couldn't handle the pressure of a relegation battle last season and last night played like they couldn't handle the pressure of being favourites to win the league... Seriously they need to find some balls from somewhere or piss off, it's a game of football not a life or death situation, just play with freedom without thinking man! Do you want to play at the highest level or not because going off that performance if Man Utd or Arsenal suddenly came in for any of our players they'd turn around and say 'thanks for the offer but no I don't fancy playing on a stage as big as that, what with the pressure and all... '. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm gutted by the result but I'm surprised by the reaction on here. We had, imo, two stonewall penalties and created enough strong chances despite playing pretty poorly to get a draw at least. There are plenty of positives to take despite the defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm gutted by the result but I'm surprised by the reaction on here. We had, imo, two stonewall penalties and created enough strong chances despite playing pretty poorly to get a draw at least. There are plenty of positives to take despite the defeat. It's N-O, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 The first non penalty decision was ridiculous like, clear as day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Can't get over this 'Wake up call' bollocks from JL and Rafa tbqh. Complete football cliche shite. A fucking wake up call? It's the first game in a league where half the fucking team have played before, some of them have played more at that level than any other. A 'wake up call' might be Hanley or someone getting skinned in the premiership. A wake up call might be when the standard is such a shock. Call it what it was, Rafa got it wrong, the application was wrong and the set pieces were a complete joke. Fucking Wake up call. What are they waking up to? Hanley, Lascelles, Colback, Hayden, Gayle, Ritchie have played that level of football before FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Urgh. That morning after feeling again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm gutted by the result but I'm surprised by the reaction on here. We had, imo, two stonewall penalties and created enough strong chances despite playing pretty poorly to get a draw at least. There are plenty of positives to take despite the defeat. It's N-O, man. Anah, but I wrongly assumed that there was a limit and that common sense would kick in with some people. Some people are being a bit hysterical like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Can't get over this 'Wake up call' bollocks from JL and Rafa tbqh. Complete football cliche s****. A f***ing wake up call? It's the first game in a league where half the f***ing team have played before, some of them have played more at that level than any other. A 'wake up call' might be Hanley or someone getting skinned in the premiership. A wake up call might be when the standard is such a shock. Call it what it was, Rafa got it wrong, the application was wrong and the set pieces were a complete joke. f***ing Wake up call. What are they waking up to? Hanley, Lascelles, Colback, Hayden, Gayle, Ritchie have played that level of football before FFS. I suppose they're waking up to the mistakes you have pointed out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Can't get over this 'Wake up call' bollocks from JL and Rafa tbqh. Complete football cliche s****. A f***ing wake up call? It's the first game in a league where half the f***ing team have played before, some of them have played more at that level than any other. A 'wake up call' might be Hanley or someone getting skinned in the premiership. A wake up call might be when the standard is such a shock. Call it what it was, Rafa got it wrong, the application was wrong and the set pieces were a complete joke. f***ing Wake up call. What are they waking up to? Hanley, Lascelles, Colback, Hayden, Gayle, Ritchie have played that level of football before FFS. I think last night being described as a wake up call is a fair comment, some of out players looked as if they just had to turn up and they would go home with the points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Can't get over this 'Wake up call' bollocks from JL and Rafa tbqh. Complete football cliche s****. A f***ing wake up call? It's the first game in a league where half the f***ing team have played before, some of them have played more at that level than any other. A 'wake up call' might be Hanley or someone getting skinned in the premiership. A wake up call might be when the standard is such a shock. Call it what it was, Rafa got it wrong, the application was wrong and the set pieces were a complete joke. f***ing Wake up call. What are they waking up to? Hanley, Lascelles, Colback, Hayden, Gayle, Ritchie have played that level of football before FFS. I think last night being described as a wake up call is a fair comment, some of out players looked as if they just had to turn up and they would go home with the points. But why though? Over half of them have played at that level before. It's surely not a shock that it's vaguely competitive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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