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11 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Yeah it's not like Gateshead wouldn't be potentially able to renew the lease with a new owner, or work towards an alternative ground going forward. If anything they'd have more chance of doing so as an EFL club than as a blacklisted non league club with a glass ceiling now. It'll kill the club.

 

Depressing and shit situation all-round. Financially cash strapped local council forced to sell off public assets which could effectively kill the local club that relies on it.

 

 

 

Council funding sounds just like FFP it seems.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Disco said:


Exactly, who is this rule benefiting?
 

Clubs who are penalised? No. Clubs who it doesn’t affect? No. Other clubs in the league where clubs are affected? No.  Unless I’m missing something incredibly obvious it just seems like having a rule for a rules sake almost as if they didn’t think it’d need enforcing. Not that all involved haven’t made a total pigs ear of it. 

 

It's not unreasonable to ensure clubs in a fully professional league have somewhere to play for the foreseeable future. Clubs getting locked out of short-term leases and having to groundshare / drop out was a pretty common event within the Step 2 and below leagues. I don't know when the FL implemented this but I suspect it will go back to Brighton / Gillingham fiasco. It's also helped protect clubs from owners looking to buy a club and sell the ground from underneath them, which happens far less now than in the 90s/2000s. To me it's a more reasonable request than blocking a team's promotion because the referee's changing room is 30cm too narrow.

 

It's obviously disappointing for the supporters, but the rules here are not new. You need something similar for entry into the National League also as I remember Blyth ended up buying the leasehold on their ground last time we were in the NPL and looking to go back up to the NLN. The Gateshead fans who have been around a while will know all this but for relative newcomers it seems unfair to have been kept in the dark.

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Even if the rules are completely sound, the steadfast and instant "forget it, you're barred," without any warning, any mediation or any vague attempt to be proactive is just utterly draconian and miserable. Not so much as an ultimatum - just "you're fucked, lads, sorry."

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The whole things stinks the more I think about it. They've literally just sat back and watched those players play 5 games in 9 days to finish the season, when it's been known all along they wouldn't be able to compete in the Play Offs anyway.

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1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

Even if the rules are completely sound, the steadfast and instant "forget it, you're barred," without any warning, any mediation or any vague attempt to be proactive is just utterly draconian and miserable. Not so much as an ultimatum - just "you're fucked, lads, sorry."

 

Zero chance this was without any warning, there is whole process to go through over several months, and any club in non-league will know what is needed to go up (or to stay where they are) before the opening day. This only seems sudden because none of the discussion appears to have been in public until now. If the risk of being barred from the playoffs was kept from players and management then that is really poor form IMO.

 

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Pathetic state of sffairs.

 

Stating the obvious here, but Gateshead  need to quickly find backers for a new ground with a 5,000 capacity otherwise they don't appear to have much of a future. 

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Gannon's pal Dim McGuinness coming to the rescue. Apparently all the EFL's fault ?

 

May 2nd local election but early last week was when all the postal votes dropped. 

Absolutely no suprise they sat on the decision until the last minute. 

I've campaigned for Lab. Postal votes are paramount and nothing gets in the way. 

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2 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Gannon's pal Dim McGuinness coming to the rescue. Apparently all the EFL's fault ?

 

May 2nd local election but early last week was when all the postal votes dropped. 

Absolutely no suprise they sat on the decision until the last minute. 

I've campaigned for Lab. Postal votes are paramount and nothing gets in the way. 

I will be rather sad if McGuinness wins the mayoral vote 

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10 hours ago, Matt said:

 

Zero chance this was without any warning, there is whole process to go through over several months, and any club in non-league will know what is needed to go up (or to stay where they are) before the opening day. This only seems sudden because none of the discussion appears to have been in public until now. If the risk of being barred from the playoffs was kept from players and management then that is really poor form IMO.

 

There no way Gateshead couldn't have been aware of the requirements at the first whiff of being promoted. 

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17 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Gannon's pal Dim McGuinness coming to the rescue. Apparently all the EFL's fault ?

 

May 2nd local election but early last week was when all the postal votes dropped. 

Absolutely no suprise they sat on the decision until the last minute. 

I've campaigned for Lab. Postal votes are paramount and nothing gets in the way. 

She’ll do nothing, neither of them will. It’s well known that Gateshead council want rid of the stadium, and Kim McGuinness couldn’t work out how to find a book in library, never mind do anything that would help.

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We (Newcastle) have achieved some incredible results this season in very difficult circumstances but the success story of north east football is undoubtedly Gateshead so the entire NE football community should get behind them.

So the EFL were really upset at decisions made about their clubs in the FA Cup, but then they go and do this to a brilliant football club who perpetually have to fight against the odds.

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27 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

makes you think!

 

Tbf our owners couldn't buy Gateshead as they already own NUFC so that would be a non starter. 

 

However they did say they would invest heavily in the Region and buying Gateshead Stadium might not be the worst place to start. Not only would they be helping out a local football club desperately in need of help but there's a bit of land around that stadium which could be used to develop something even better which could come in handy if we needed to look for somewhere else to play whilst SJP was renovated and then who knows, maybe a permanent home for the women's team who could maybe groundshare with Gateshead FC going forward.

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Just heard about this. Absolutely gutted for them. Makes the whole season and their indefinite future a waste of time which will cost a small club valuable cash. From the brink of non-existence to nearly getting into the football league, what a story, in steps the football authorities.

Gateshead denied access to the football league on a stadium technicality at a time Manchester United are angling for a free stadium.

 

 

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Canny bit of land there. Maybe we could buy it and create a campus style set up a la Man City, bustling a state of the art training facility as well as a 5000 seater that could be used by the kids, lasses and Gateshead.

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1 minute ago, Magpie said:

Canny bit of land there. Maybe we could buy it and create a campus style set up a la Man City, bustling a state of the art training facility as well as a 5000 seater that could be used by the kids, lasses and Gateshead.

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It's still not Gateshead's own ground though, which would essentially put them back to square one. What happens when the Saudi's sell up, what's to say the next owners will be so kind?

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29 minutes ago, Paullow said:

Bishops 3 up at half time so their promotion should be confirmed at full time, baring some extraordinary circumstances.


 

 

6-0 at the minute.

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