Gallowgate Toon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Surely Wolves pressing high suits us more? We're always better when teams give us space in behind. Just sounds like we were too sloppy to capitalise. We resorted to having to send long balls to Gayle and he had no chance against their huge centre backs because they didn't let us pass it out from goal kicks. Was obvious that they weren't going to let Shelvey have any space either Would be interested to see what Diame was doing then - if their defence wasn't high enough to get in behind, in general play, but they were pressing relatively high then there must have been a decent gap in midfield to capitalise on? Either that or he should've pushed up to help Gayle. We have enough technical quality to beat a press, especially with a midfield 3 where the should be plenty of short options to play off. If only Mitro was on 5 minutes earlier... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Surely Wolves pressing high suits us more? We're always better when teams give us space in behind. Just sounds like we were too sloppy to capitalise. We resorted to having to send long balls to Gayle and he had no chance against their huge centre backs because they didn't let us pass it out from goal kicks. Was obvious that they weren't going to let Shelvey have any space either Would be interested to see what Diame was doing then - if their defence wasn't high enough to get in behind, in general play, but they were pressing relatively high then there must have been a decent gap in midfield to capitalise on? Either that or he should've pushed up to help Gayle. We have enough technical quality to beat a press, especially with a midfield 3 where the should be plenty of short options to play off. If only Mitro was on 5 minutes earlier... In the games Diame has played so far I've yet to see what his role was supposed to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I can see understand changing personnel but changing so much that we change the entire pattern of a team that done well. I don't even have a clue as to where Diame was supposed to be playing. 3 defeats this season and I'll put them all down to team selection and giving the opposition too much respect. The team today had more than enough firepower, by a distance, to put that Wolves side to the sword. I'm assuming the diagonals would've been to help get Perez and Ritchie in positions to cut in and shoot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Surely Wolves pressing high suits us more? We're always better when teams give us space in behind. Just sounds like we were too sloppy to capitalise. We resorted to having to send long balls to Gayle and he had no chance against their huge centre backs because they didn't let us pass it out from goal kicks. Was obvious that they weren't going to let Shelvey have any space either Would be interested to see what Diame was doing then - if their defence wasn't high enough to get in behind, in general play, but they were pressing relatively high then there must have been a decent gap in midfield to capitalise on? Either that or he should've pushed up to help Gayle. We have enough technical quality to beat a press, especially with a midfield 3 where the should be plenty of short options to play off. If only Mitro was on 5 minutes earlier... In the games Diane has played so far I've yet to see what his her role was supposed to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Everyone was shit, we lost, move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Some of the suggestions on here: play Gayle out wide, start Mitro over Gayle, etc. Here's why I'm glad we have Rafa and not one of you guys in charge. Emotions running high, people not thinking clearly. Also, the incessant need to overanalyze everything. To be fair some people have been saying it for ages. Gayle looks more likely to score than Mitro but the team as a whole would probably look better with Mitrovic in there to give us an outlet. It was the same with Cisse last season. I'd honestly have Mitro in the team every game and when he's out I'd really consider starting Murphy. We don't have a true #10 capable of linking midfield to attack so if teams can press us high up the field we're forced to go direct, which when Gayle is on the field is basically giving up possession. I really wish we'd just play two up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What was the reaction like at FT? Please don't say boos... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What was the reaction like at FT? Please don't say boos... Very few boos, but most had already gone home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Played golf and checked the score after against Huddersfield, and the same today. Fucking gutted, I was definitely getting carried away after QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Played golf and checked the score after against Huddersfield, and the same today. Fucking gutted, I was definitely getting carried away after QPR. No more golf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Played golf and checked the score after against Huddersfield, and the same today. Fucking gutted, I was definitely getting carried away after QPR. No more golf. Agreed, I'm about as good at it as we played today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 think wolves had to put that performance in. zenga had been really critical of his players, and they really put a shift in today. players let us down today, not rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Dummett, Perez and Diame today were abysmal today with the others not being much better. Thought Borthwick-Jackson had a good game for them at LB, wish we'd brought him in over the summer and flogged Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Who was the jinxing cunt who said we hadn't lost a 2nd half under Rafa yet? Knacka! These kind of games happen, the effect would be lessened if we didn't start the season with 2 defeats but I'm sure with Rafa and some of our players mentalities, we'll be fine come Tuesday/onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Why does Dummett run like he's running in glue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 time to go on another run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Fwiw I was quite happy with the team selection, and most on here were as well. I wasn't, it looked like the same side that has struggled in other games, especially at home. Yip, win 6 nil away and then make loads of changes, no need. We were shocking in the 1st half and not much better in the 2nd as we just cannot chase a game. Too complacent and cocky in the 1st half, too many Hollywood balls from Shelvey although to be fair he had a good 2nd half. Others have slated Mbemba whereas the worst on the pitch for me was Dummett who really missed the protection given to him by Goufrann. Diame was poor, Ritchie had to be substituted to save him getting a red card which he was clearly warned he was heading for, Hayden was poor. Just a typical after the lord mayors show performance. Need to get consistent asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 missed goufrann today. both in defence and attack. wow, never thought i'd say that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Why does Dummett run like he's running in glue? The 1st goal??? He was running in quicksand miles behind play which meant Lascelles was pulled out of position but this still didn't explain how the ball spun off Mbemba's bonce and into the net under no pressure at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Why does Dummett run like he's running in glue? The 1st goal??? He was running in quicksand miles behind play which meant Lascelles was pulled out of position but this still didn't explain how the ball spun off Mbemba's bonce and into the net under no pressure at all. Lascelles pass was shocking mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I can see understand changing personnel but changing so much that we change the entire pattern of a team that done well. I don't even have a clue as to where Diame was supposed to be playing. 3 defeats this season and I'll put them all down to team selection and giving the opposition too much respect. Diame has done very little so far. I also think if we don't get an early goal, or go behind, players start getting a little nervous. QPR aside we've not scored all too many goals from open play. I think we need to be starting Mitrovic especially as players like that are useful if a team isn't playing well as he can hold the ball up better. I'd like to see Diame dropped and Gayle and Mitrovic playing together as I think Gayle would benefit a lot from playing alongside a more physical forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He's still not been at fault for any of our goals this season but what on earth was Sels doing with that cross in the 2nd half I also thought he handled it outside the area in the 2nd half, which no one seemed to notice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 17 shots only three on target? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He's still not been at fault for any of our goals this season but what on earth was Sels doing with that cross in the 2nd half I also thought he handled it outside the area in the 2nd half, which no one seemed to notice I've said it before; Sels is terrible at collecting a ball into his body and at some point he will cost us an important goal. The corner he gave away today was laughable. We should storm that league and I'm confident we will and that Rafa will cut down on the rotation so much in key areas. If I were to make a single decision I'd have Mitro picked ahead of Gayle. There's been too many games where Gayle has been nullified through lack of support/ the size of the opposition. Rafa should have changed it at HT today. The crowd could see the problem today, it wasn't hard to work out. Unless we change to 442, which we won't, we can't have Perez and Gayle starting together. We carried absolutely no threat today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He's still not been at fault for any of our goals this season but what on earth was Sels doing with that cross in the 2nd half I also thought he handled it outside the area in the 2nd half, which no one seemed to notice He was at fault for their 2nd today. Pretty similar to the Huddersfield winner really. Showed the striker a huge area of the goal to calmly Stoke the ball past him from outside the box. I was sat right behind it and his positioning was awful. He had a terrible game today, he should have gathered one into his chest and ended up giving them a corner after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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