Ronaldo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Nobody praises Woodgate for what he achieved though, merely that he was the most talented CB of his generation, which he was. Rio Ferdinand was. Followed by Ledley King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Nobody praises Woodgate for what he achieved though, merely that he was the most talented CB of his generation, which he was. Rio Ferdinand was. Followed by Ledley King. Fair enough, I don't agree with that but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Didn't Terry get "Dad of the Year" or some other BS award just before the Wayne Bridge thing broke? Great player, but so full of himself, and an example of the entitlement that turns many English people off the England team. That's if the Oompah band, "10 German bombers", and the general ineptitude of the FA don't do it already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 The wife hates him with a passion I hope I never have directed at me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Surely this is fixing to a greater extent than the fat bloke eating the pie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Nobody praises Woodgate for what he achieved though, merely that he was the most talented CB of his generation, which he was. Rio Ferdinand was. Followed by Ledley King. Fair enough, I don't agree with that but there you go. Ledley King, man. On the odd occasions you got to see him play, he was fucking colossal. Brilliant for England as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Woodgate was amazing as well, definitely the best defender I've seen play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Woodgate was amazing as well, definitely the best defender I've seen play for us. him vs Drogba (Marseille) both in their prime: colossal battle. Think Woodgate injured himself from memory, but was pitchside and can recall them busting a gut/straining every sinew in their duel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I agree with most of that, to be fair. The above average comment is a bit daft, though. I don't think he touches Rio in terms of ability, obviously, but it's worth pointing out that while Terry was leading Chelsea to every trophy imaginable and captaining England, Woodgate was in the Star & Garter in Middlesbrough trying to convince pension-aged locals to p*ss on themselves so him and his bottom of the barrel mates could grab a quick laugh. Winds me up whenever people bring Woodgate into conversations like this. If anything it affords credit to Terry for achieving a billion times more than a t*** like Woodgate with less talent. Woodgate lacked the mentality of Terry which was Shearer like when it come to his football, I'll give him that. Terry was an aggressive professional in that respect and like Ronaldo in a way got the absolute maximum from his ability to achieve great things. He was an everage footballer though and was very very fortunate to have been around when Roman took over and can thank Carvalho and Mourinho massively for his success early doors. Once he become Mr Cheslea, it was hard for others to drop or replace him. Rafa knew the score though. In any other side he'd be above average. Cahill hasn't had his career for example, but he's not far off Terry in terms of ability and such. I'd rate several English CBs in the PL era ahead of Terry. Keown for examle, Adams, Woodgate, King, Rio, Carragher even and our own Taylor.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Wow people are letting the hate of the man, get in the way of the fact that he was an extremely good defender. Other than Rio, nobody HTT mentioned touches him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Bizarre hatred. As has been said, the most talented defender we've had in most of our lifetimes. If we had more defenders like him during the Bobby years we might have actually won something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Keown ahead of Terry? OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 A massive cockwomble Terry is/was but he was also the best two footed CB, who could defend properly we've seen in the Premiership imo. Hate saying it but it's true imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Carried by Carvalho constantly...massively overated not a patch on Bruce,Pallister,Adams,Vidic or Ferdinand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I don't think I ever agree with HTT on players like. It seems to happen more regularly than it used to as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Sol Campbell is going to be on the phone to the society of black lawyers when he finds out he's not been mentioned. Shocking racism from N-O to overlook one of the best defenders the league has had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Sol, how the fuck did I forget. Pisses all over Terry like! I actually like Terry as a person btw so its not personal, what is not to like. That cockney charm, wearing his kit in full, looking after a team-mates wife, the causal dislike of someone not white. CHEWSEE CHEWSEE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Carried by Carvalho constantly...massively operated not a patch on Bruce,Pallister,Adams,Vidic or Ferdinand I'd personally add campbell, hyypia, mcgrath and potentially Des Walker to this list if we're looking at prem-era centre-backs. Not sure about bruce/pallister mind. They were a great combination but neither were stand-out brilliant in their own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Stam deserves a mention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Wow people are letting the hate of the man, get in the way of the fact that he was an extremely good defender. Other than Rio, nobody HTT mentioned touches him. Tony Adams? Much better than Terry imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Talent without application stands for nothing. Injuries detract as well. PL era better than Terry? Rio & Stam (for his time here). Perhaps Campbell. John Terry was a much better overall player than people are giving him credit for. Better with the ball at his feet than Adams, Campbell, Vidic and many others. Only weakness was a lack of pace / slow on the turn but that was always the case which meant he wasn't useless by 32 like a Campbell. Terry had more to his game than a Vidic who had similar weaknesses. Wasn't the organiser or score as many goals. Bruce & Pallister? FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Wow people are letting the hate of the man, get in the way of the fact that he was an extremely good defender. Other than Rio, nobody HTT mentioned touches him. Tony Adams? Much better than Terry imho. At what? From what I remember, similar type of player - without the goals or as many top level performances in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Think Adams was quicker than Terry but they are certainly comparable as stopper centre halfs. Think it's fair to say that Terry was a better footballer but maybe Adams a better defender but it's debatable for sure. Paul McGrath and Des Walker are the best two I've seen Prem era. Campbell is definitely under rated too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Sol Campbell is going to be on the phone to the society of black lawyers when he finds out he's not been mentioned. Shocking racism from N-O to overlook one of the best defenders the league has had. THIS. The two seasons before and the three seasons after he joined Arsenal he was an absolute colossus. For us though, Woodgate was the man.. probably the only time we've signed a top center back in his absolute prime. His debut against Chelsea was something that will stay in the memory for a long time. We made the right call in selling him though, sports science wasn't quite there yet and he was broken. Plus in hindsight, we were about to go on our shite managerial ramble into the wilderness so he would have been wasted with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Biggest cockend in football is a weighty title. But I know a man who might challenge Terry. Step forward... Joseph Barton esq Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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