LRD Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 English clubs can officially sign and add players to their squad from 9/10 June. Can't see why players have to move only from 1 July if the deal is done and dusted, unless they are signing on a free transfer. Say, we sign Lejeune from Eibar. They are skint and will most likely need the 8.7m to booster their transfer funds. If we meet the release clause and they know Lejeune will leave, why would they say hold the money, let's keep him until 1 July or until our FY ends and waste a few week's worth of wages for a player we won't be using the services of? Meet the release clause, pay up in full and we get him off our books so that we move on and look for his replacement would be the clear option. Because we don't have the money to pay for him. Our financial year starts on July 1st. So we can only sign players on a new FY? Where did the money for Atsu come from? Discounting the 6m on him, we still have a 24m net profit from last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 English clubs can officially sign and add players to their squad from 9/10 June. Can't see why players have to move only from 1 July if the deal is done and dusted, unless they are signing on a free transfer. Say, we sign Lejeune from Eibar. They are skint and will most likely need the 8.7m to booster their transfer funds. If we meet the release clause and they know Lejeune will leave, why would they say hold the money, let's keep him until 1 July or until our FY ends and waste a few week's worth of wages for a player we won't be using the services of? Meet the release clause, pay up in full and we get him off our books so that we move on and look for his replacement would be the clear option. Because we don't have the money to pay for him. Our financial year starts on July 1st. There is that as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 English clubs can officially sign and add players to their squad from 9/10 June. Can't see why players have to move only from 1 July if the deal is done and dusted, unless they are signing on a free transfer. Say, we sign Lejeune from Eibar. They are skint and will most likely need the 8.7m to booster their transfer funds. If we meet the release clause and they know Lejeune will leave, why would they say hold the money, let's keep him until 1 July or until our FY ends and waste a few week's worth of wages for a player we won't be using the services of? Meet the release clause, pay up in full and we get him off our books so that we move on and look for his replacement would be the clear option. Because we don't have the money to pay for him. Our financial year starts on July 1st. So we can only sign players on a new FY? Where did the money for Atsu come from? Discounting the 6m on him, we still have a 24m net profit from last season? We also had a high wage bill to pay for and less TV money. Didn't Ashley have to put more money in to service the club? Also Atsu had to be bought or the fixed fee would expire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 English clubs can officially sign and add players to their squad from 9/10 June. Can't see why players have to move only from 1 July if the deal is done and dusted, unless they are signing on a free transfer. Say, we sign Lejeune from Eibar. They are skint and will most likely need the 8.7m to booster their transfer funds. If we meet the release clause and they know Lejeune will leave, why would they say hold the money, let's keep him until 1 July or until our FY ends and waste a few week's worth of wages for a player we won't be using the services of? Meet the release clause, pay up in full and we get him off our books so that we move on and look for his replacement would be the clear option. Because we don't have the money to pay for him. Our financial year starts on July 1st. So we can only sign players on a new FY? Where did the money for Atsu come from? Discounting the 6m on him, we still have a 24m net profit from last season? Probably in instalments or using whatever finance we have. Honestly, you need to read up on how much our finances were affected by being RELEGATED. You do know we lost £40m pounds last season and had to be bailed out with a £30m loan by our owner in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 There is simply no reason linked to transfer windows/contract expiry dates/financial dates that we've not signed anyone (other than Atsu). There is no doubt that Rafa would have liked to bring some players in by now but the reality is that a lot of players are either on holiday or at some international tournament and not particularly interested in flying home to go through medicals etc. Same goes for club chief executives, who are probably more interested in getting a tan than speaking to Charnley. There will be movements following pre-season starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Don't think that answers the part on tying any new transfers and thereby announcements to the new FY. We still have a week til July. Let's see if we have any money to pay for players and sign them before the new FY then. Darn Bournemouth breaking the rules by spending big money on Begovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 There is simply no reason linked to transfer windows/contract expiry dates/financial dates that we've not signed anyone (other than Atsu). There is no doubt that Rafa would have liked to bring some players in by now but the reality is that a lot of players are either on holiday or at some international tournament and not particularly interested in flying home to go through medicals etc. Same goes for club cheif executives, who are probably more interested in getting a tan than speaking to Charnley. There will be movements following pre-season starting. Have no issues with this being a valid reason behind any delays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 English clubs can officially sign and add players to their squad from 9/10 June. Can't see why players have to move only from 1 July if the deal is done and dusted, unless they are signing on a free transfer. Say, we sign Lejeune from Eibar. They are skint and will most likely need the 8.7m to booster their transfer funds. If we meet the release clause and they know Lejeune will leave, why would they say hold the money, let's keep him until 1 July or until our FY ends and waste a few week's worth of wages for a player we won't be using the services of? Meet the release clause, pay up in full and we get him off our books so that we move on and look for his replacement would be the clear option. Because we don't have the money to pay for him. Our financial year starts on July 1st. Why would NUFC have more cash on hand on July 1st than on June 30th? I think some of you are misunderstanding what a 'financial year' is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 English clubs can officially sign and add players to their squad from 9/10 June. Can't see why players have to move only from 1 July if the deal is done and dusted, unless they are signing on a free transfer. Say, we sign Lejeune from Eibar. They are skint and will most likely need the 8.7m to booster their transfer funds. If we meet the release clause and they know Lejeune will leave, why would they say hold the money, let's keep him until 1 July or until our FY ends and waste a few week's worth of wages for a player we won't be using the services of? Meet the release clause, pay up in full and we get him off our books so that we move on and look for his replacement would be the clear option. Because we don't have the money to pay for him. Our financial year starts on July 1st. Why would NUFC have more cash on hand on July 1st than on June 30th? I think some of you are misunderstanding what a 'financial year' is. I know we won't have more money (although it's likely we are due payments from transfers from the 1st July due to the way we organise sales of players), but a lot of businesses push investments back into the new financial year so it doesn't go into the previous years accounts. It's very likely we have a set budget for the set of accounts that start on the 1st July and we want new signings to be included in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Not sure about this financial year malarkey. Players are assets on the balance sheet and amortised in to the P&L of which 2 weeks will be minimal. Cash is also an asset so net effect is 0 isn't it? Unless there is a benefit to a stronger cash position... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I've just heard we're "ready to swoop", exciting saga this one mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Not sure why people are so desperate to try and explain everything. We simply haven't bought anyone yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Not sure why people are so desperate to try and explain everything. We simply haven't bought anyone yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Not sure why people are so desperate to try and explain everything. We simply haven't bought anyone yet. Atsu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Not sure why people are so desperate to try and explain everything. We simply haven't bought anyone yet. Atsu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I'm personally of the opinion that there probably is some sort of 'hidden' financial reason as to why we haven't signed Lejeune yet. It's the type of thing we'd do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Whatever reasons there are I would like us to get most of our deals done earlier than what looks likely now. I understand that it's not always as easy as one would think. Would be/have been nice to get them in earlier so that we're ready for the new season when it starts. We have a lot of work to do and quite a few players to sign and the earlier the better I think. People say that last year we signed late on, yeah, you're right, but at the same time we were about to start playing in a weaker league where our quality compared to the other sides would shine through despite us maybe not having the optimal time to gel. On paper our starting fixtures could have been much harder and it would be nice to get a great start and some wind in our sails. Hopefully we'll have done most of the hard work so far when it comes to getting our targets, and that they will drop in one after one pretty quickly. Not panicking yet but it's time to start getting them over the line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Still no need to panic. Anyone we sign cant start training until July 3rd and if they've been on international duty, wont start until July 10th. Hopefully there's irons in the fire just waiting to be taken out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 The fact that we're seemingly unable to complete transfers that we've already agreed could suggest a transfer embargo due to the Chinese interest in the club. We want to get our business in so that we have players to come straight into pre-season training for the start, not during. I'd say due to the factors above, people are probably justified in panicking and wondering just a bit. It's yet another transfer window where our signings are clearly being held-up due to Ashley and Charnley's incompetence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 As long as Mike Ashley is the owner panic and worry is always justified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 If it wasn't a pattern to making signings late then I'd suggest that buying after July 1st this year would make a big deal of sense tax wise. As it is a pattern however I'd say we are either just slow or prioritise a few weeks of not paying wages over team integration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Team Integration isnt an issue though. The squad dont return to training till July. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 A week, in other words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 people keep talking about July like it's some mystical, magical far-off land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 people keep talking about July like it's some mystical, magical far-off land. Season hasn't even started yet, window doesn't close for another week, money to spend in January etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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