The College Dropout Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Piss poor for the second and fourth. Not convinced by him so far. Cost a number of goals with genuinely poor play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 p*ss poor for the second and fourth. Not convinced by him so far. Cost a number of goals with genuinely poor play. My thoughts too. He's getting an easy ride as he's new and exciting. but this lad worries me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 His biggest flaw appears to be his habit of playing people onside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 He really missed Lascelles today imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We've haven't won a game other than Palace since he came back to the side, and costed us in his first game back at Southampton, really not convinced by him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 He's going to be absolutely fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 The game before he came back (Liverpool I believe?), Lascelles made a dodgy clearance which lead to the goal, and Clark was a lucky b****** getting away with an airkick. Where do you draw the line? We also conceded a poor goal the game before that at Brighton (needless foul by Lascelles to give away a free-kick) and then were done by a ball into the far post... and that's with Lascelles, Clark & Mbemba. That was from Knockaert, Stephens & Hemed rather than the likes of Pogba, Rashford & Lukaku too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 He's going to be absolutely fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We've haven't won a game other than Palace since he came back to the side, and costed us in his first game back at Southampton, really not convinced by him. We're not scoring goals man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 He's going to be absolutely fine. Mad that this even needs to be posted really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I thought he was crap tbh. The Lukaku and Smalling goals were unbelievably powderpuff, soft as shite forrin defending. The sort of stuff Coloccini used to get pelters for. Strangely enough. He reminded me of earlier Coloccini, at times. Not full blown Colo The Clown defending. But some really classy bits of play on the ball, where he looked skillful and composed. Followed by looking like he’s not paying attention and being scared to tackle anyone. I think he will develop into a top player for us, the same way Colo did. Just hopefully he doesn’t then revert to type, the same was ol floppy hair did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 The game before he came back (Liverpool I believe?), Lascelles made a dodgy clearance which lead to the goal, and Clark was a lucky b****** getting away with an airkick. Where do you draw the line? We also conceded a poor goal the game before that at Brighton (needless foul by Lascelles to give away a free-kick) and then were done by a ball into the far post... and that's with Lascelles, Clark & Mbemba. That was from Knockaert, Stephens & Hemed rather than the likes of Pogba, Rashford & Lukaku too. There's a big difference between a sliced clearance that ends up going to one of our own players (the Lascelles one) before being picked up 30 yards from goal dribbled and struck in the top corner from 25 yards. Aaaaand getting beat directly in an aerial duel that leads to a goal. In a relatively minimal amount of games. Lejeunes has directly been responsible for a few goals being conceded with genuinely poor pieces of defending. Clark's got away with one at Liverpool and he was directly to blame for the Bournemouth winner but it was contested strongly - he simply lost vs another defender. Agreed with the Colo comparisons. A good footballer for sure but not certain he's a good defender. In retrospect the 3rd goal was more forgivable than playing someone on for the second. Like Colo I can see him improving to become a good player for us and he doesn't have Colo's physical limitations. But for now, as long as Lascelles and Clark are fully fit I would start them both ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I mean i see what you're saying, I just don't agree with you. Would honestly rather see Clark or Mbemba play LB and make sure Lascelles and Lejeune are always our first choice CB pairing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I mean i see what you're saying, I just don't agree with you. Would honestly rather see Clark or Mbemba play LB and make sure Lascelles and Lejeune are always our first choice CB pairing. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Agreed on getting Manquillo out of here. Based on performances I can't justify Lejeune ahead of Clark I don't think. Potential perhaps but not in performances. I would go with the form players and the best partnership as first choice. I juries will mean Lejeune will get enough game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Next week we'll see Rafa's true opinion on our CB's. Lejeune had a mare imo. If he really believes in him or he doesn't rate Mbemba at all he'll keep him in the side. Mbemba imo is firmly out of favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 He looks a natural footballer and a decent defender so far. In time I'm hopeful he'll form a good partnership with Lascelles who's probably the opposite. Agreed on Lejeune, but I think Lascelles is actually very good at defending and the better of the two at that. He former is classy on the ball mind, some nice touches and seems to read the game well, always important at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 He’s prob our best stand up and tackle CB we have. Especially with faster players coming at him with pace he’s sticking a foot out and winning the ball and carrying it forward. His issue was he slept on Smalling at back post and seemingly gave up / didn’t think he’d get that? And on the Lukaku won he went in tamely / weakly when he’s a strong CB. His strength seems to be his footballing ability, his tackling and heading and he seemingly slept on the things he’s great at for those goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Our centre-backs never seem far from a rick, but there's a lot of pressure on them because we can't take the game to anyone. I actually think in Lascelles, Clark, Lejeune and Mbemba - we've potentially got one of the strongest quartets I can remember. But they're all a bit rough around the edges, along with a bit of a pants keeper, full-backs who can't head the ball and a front six with limited attacking prowess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Our centre-backs never seem far from a rick, but there's a lot of pressure on them because we can't take the game to anyone. I actually think in Lascelles, Clark, Lejeune and Mbemba - we've potentially got one of the strongest quartets I can remember. But they're all a bit rough around the edges, along with a bit of a pants keeper, full-backs who can't head the ball and a front six with limited attacking prowess. Agreed. We do a lot of defending. Although, we are pretty tight and compact. A lot of it is dealing with crosses which should be easy work for centre backs. Our crap goalie doesn't help mind. The left sided deep cross to right should be a go-to move for opposition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 He looks a natural footballer and a decent defender so far. In time I'm hopeful he'll form a good partnership with Lascelles who's probably the opposite. Agreed on Lejeune, but I think Lascelles is actually very good at defending and the better of the two at that. He former is classy on the ball mind, some nice touches and seems to read the game well, always important at the back. So you agree with me then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 clearly not as good as we thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 He's a good player but we've been noticeably worse in defence with him in the team tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Very error prone. Defenders are often like that when they move teams tbf so wouldn't write him off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 It’s early days but I expected better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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