Danh1 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Does anybody else find PIF’s general lack of visibility at NUFC curious? They appear to have no involvement in day-to-day running of the club at all. If this was a super important vehicle for them, then it seems a reasonable bet that they would want their own people more involved. Personally, I think that tells its own story. But that’s probably just me. Aren’t two of the board of directors from PIF? Sure they’ll have a big involvement in running the club, if not publicly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) Mendy was pretty good for a while. In fact more than pretty good, won GK of the year, 9 clean sheets in the CL. He was really good under Tuchel Edited June 19, 2023 by Sempiternal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 They were always going to get rid if them though regardless of the Saudis coming in. They aren’t terrible players who no one would want, the likes of Kante, Koulibily etc where always going to be wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Does anybody else find PIF’s general lack of visibility at NUFC curious? They appear to have no involvement in day-to-day running of the club at all. If this was a super important vehicle for them, then it seems a reasonable bet that they would want their own people more involved. Personally, I think that tells its own story. But that’s probably just me. Even though PIF holds a majority of something close to 40 different companies, the head of PIF is a chairman of only 2 of them: Aramco and Newcastle United. It sure does look like an important vehicle to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Does anybody else find PIF’s general lack of visibility at NUFC curious? They appear to have no involvement in day-to-day running of the club at all. If this was a super important vehicle for them, then it seems a reasonable bet that they would want their own people more involved. Personally, I think that tells its own story. But that’s probably just me. It's almost as if they feel obliged to reinforce the distinct separation between the club and PIF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Yeah, less mention of them the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Fair enough, all. Genuinely I’m not trying to be an arse about it. I normally like owners to set out their vision for the club, but understand that this isn’t an everyday ownership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I would personally love the chairman to do a year in review video like Man City do. Maybe one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see stuff from the people who are involved in the running of NUFC. I just don't think it needs to mention PIF too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Absolutely maddening if Chelsea come out of the utter clusterfuck of a last 12+ months with a top manager, a vaguely settled squad and something approaching financial stability. If you were to scale down the mismanagement and apply it relatively to any non-'Big Sixer' (?), it would be enough to set them back for years. But nah, not the likes of this lot. Absolutely hideous club. Probably the only one in existence I'd love to see just disappear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Having loads of money will always insulate you from failure to a certain extent. They are lucky that so many of their failures are sellable assets still, and they can get lots of players off the books when they need to. I don't understand the technicalities of the sale from Abramovich and how the debts were written off etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 You never know, they could be buying all these players to loan back to us for free on 0% wages so we dont break FFP. Ludicrous statement that fits in with some other assertions here.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthusiast Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Personally speaking I long for the days of yore, when the most interaction you'd have with the chair of the football club is when you flick past their notes in the programme, and the idea of knowing who was running other clubs was in most cases a complete fucking mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Fair enough, all. Genuinely I’m not trying to be an arse about it. I normally like owners to set out their vision for the club, but understand that this isn’t an everyday ownership I think the comments from Staveley not long after the takeover went through speak volumes as well. Something about how her and Ghodoussi are asset managers, but won’t be for long if things don’t go well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 PIF is huge and we’re a very small part of their extremely diversified portfolio. The scale of it means there will always be conflicting interests with different arms and companies all competing for investment etc. out of the same metaphorical pot, that’s just the reality of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, McCormick said: PIF is huge and we’re a very small part of their extremely diversified portfolio. The scale of it means there will always be conflicting interests with different arms and companies all competing for investment etc. out of the same metaphorical pot, that’s just the reality of it. Yep. I'm annoyed about Chelsea being saved, but our owners contributing to it is actually by the by, for me. We're owned by Saudi Arabia - I expect absolutely tons of baggage; whether that's unrelenting questioning over moral issues, green kits, or the owners investing in football matters besides just NUFC. The horse bolted as soon as the takeover concluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Yep, at the end of the day the wider interests of the Saudi state will come above anything else, including us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 For example, I know for a fact that different housing projects (technically) under the same banner are massively competing against each other for further investment/ resources/ manpower. It’ll be the same here; PIF will do what they see as best for PIF and allocate accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 The Saudi league desperately needs players and Chelsea are desperate to sell. It is annoying that it gives Chelsea an east out, but otherwise it’s a fairly inevitable deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Yeah. And frankly, as far as this latest attempt by a country/league to challenge the dominance of UEFA, good luck to them. Competition is good. Not that I necessarily see it succeeding. You do wonder why the China strategy has been applied again. Is 'sign a load of ageing legends' literally the only possible first step in building up prestige and interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonFC Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 This whole Chelsea/PIF story just doesnt sit right with me, feeling really uneasy about it. No doubt we will somehow suffer for it indirectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, LV said: Yep, at the end of the day the wider interests of the Saudi state will come above anything else, including us. We’re they’re investment- morality discussions aside- what’s good for us is good them, ultimately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Chelsea have to be the luckiest team in the world. Even after a catastrophic year of terrible signings and from windows before that, they’re going to make most of their money back, as it conveniently coincides with the exact time Saudi are investing in their league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Yeah. And frankly, as far as this latest attempt by a country/league to challenge the dominance of UEFA, good luck to them. Competition is good. Not that I necessarily see it succeeding. You do wonder why the China strategy has been applied again. Is 'sign a load of ageing legends' literally the only possible first step in building up prestige and interest? Think they are in a hurry if the end goal really is the raising of their league's status before the bid for 2030 World Cup. And McCormick can correct me but patience doesn't really mean much with all that money burning in their pockets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 This is all leading towards some huge bids for the following players: - Isaac Hayden - Jeff Hendrick - Jamaal Lascelles - Javier Manquillo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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