Tina Tooner Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Chelsea's last 3 seasons spending 23/24 (so far) Net +40m 22/23 Net -470 21/22 Net +30m Thats -400m over the last rolling 3 seasons. I know Net spend isnt the whole picture with FFP but can anyone explain how thats possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Tina Tooner said: Chelsea's last 3 seasons spending 23/24 (so far) Net +40m 22/23 Net -470 21/22 Net +30m Thats -400m over the last rolling 3 seasons. I know Net spend isnt the whole picture with FFP but can anyone explain how thats possible? I’m guessing the 470m figure is the “headline” figure and not the amortisatised one? The headline figure isn’t relevant for FFP purposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Just now, r0cafella said: I’m guessing the 470m figure is the “headline” figure and not the amortisatised one? The headline figure isn’t relevant for FFP purposes. Indeed. It's why they initially pulled that 8 year contract shit to get around it, only to have the loophole closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, Gawalls said: In his first season in charge spurs finished fifth then the next three seasons they finished second and third twice. The average points per game is relative to the season their earned in. On top of this he also took them to a champions league final. He also took soton to eighth- their highest ever premier league finish, beating Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea that season. With a stable club in the background, mind, not the bizarre random spending machine that is Chelsea. I think that might be the distinguishing factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Just now, brummie said: Indeed. It's why they initially pulled that 8 year contract shit to get around it, only to have the loophole closed. And they used that a lot it’s ironic because if we did it ( we should have) the loophole would have been closed right away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 To be fair, the loophole was closed pretty quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Just now, brummie said: To be fair, the loophole was closed pretty quickly. They got 2 windows doing it surprised you lot were also a sleep at the wheel and not using it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Looks like we are flogging Aaron Ramsey (Jacob's brother) to Burnley for 12m plus a buy back clause. Surprised as he's mega promising but he's going to have to get ahead of one of Douglas Luiz, McGinn, Tielemans, Kamara, Jacob Ramsey, Buendia, Dendoncker, which I can't see happening any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: They got 2 windows doing it surprised you lot were also a sleep at the wheel and not using it. Our spending is minimal compared to yours these last two years, so I'd be surprised you weren't on it rather than us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Just now, brummie said: Our spending is minimal compared to yours these last two years, so I'd be surprised you weren't on it rather than us! Wasn’t a knock, Chelsea using these loops holes is smart imo. We likely didn’t have anyone smart enough to actually realise it was a thing given how Ashley left us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Then there's the flip side that they actually have players with immense 7 or 8 year contracts. Who was it that in the early Abrahmovich era basically sat out his fat contract with them and did fuck all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, brummie said: Looks like we are flogging Aaron Ramsey (Jacob's brother) to Burnley for 12m plus a buy back clause. Surprised as he's mega promising but he's going to have to get ahead of one of Douglas Luiz, McGinn, Tielemans, Kamara, Jacob Ramsey, Buendia, Dendoncker, which I can't see happening any time soon. Didn’t he do well on loan last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Just now, brummie said: Then there's the flip side that they actually have players with immense 7 or 8 year contracts. Who was it that in the early Abrahmovich era basically sat out his fat contract with them and did fuck all? This actually doesn’t matter as long as you have the money. Remember Putins bagman ran the club at massive losses and still turned a profit on the sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, brummie said: Then there's the flip side that they actually have players with immense 7 or 8 year contracts. Who was it that in the early Abrahmovich era basically sat out his fat contract with them and did fuck all? Bogarde Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, brummie said: With a stable club in the background, mind, not the bizarre random spending machine that is Chelsea. I think that might be the distinguishing factor. We’ll have to wait and see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 9 hours ago, brummie said: Chelsea's unbelievable rate of signing players. I just don't get it I can just about understand that they know what they are doing with FFP, but as for the rate of signings they engaged in in January (ie bat shit) followed by much the same this summer, I just can't believe these are the decisions of lots of people all pulling in the right direction. My prediction for this season is that they're going to have a stinker, and Poch won't last till the end. They keep on stacking them. I fancy Poch to sort it out to a large degree through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) Kane has every right to hand in a transfer request. I am surprised he hasn't. Edited August 6, 2023 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: They keep on stacking them. I fancy Poch to sort it out to a large degree through. I do - the day we got took over I genuinely said to my father when talking about it that I’d be delighted if we got in Howe or Poch, I do really rate him but hope to God I’m wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, brummie said: Then there's the flip side that they actually have players with immense 7 or 8 year contracts. Who was it that in the early Abrahmovich era basically sat out his fat contract with them and did fuck all? You’re thinking Bogarde. But Bogarde signed way before Abramovic but was hanging around a year or two into the Abramovic era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Abramovic transfers largely worked from day one iirc. First season they finished 2nd and went CL SF. Next season won the league. And was largely competitive for the entirety of his reign. Lots of money and solid leadership. I do hope the Todd era continues to suck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, duo said: Kane has every right to hand in a transfer request. I am surprised he hasn't. He'll lose about £15m quid on the transfer if he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Ronson333 said: Loads of Chelsea fans moaning Brighton should sell them Caicedo and are disrespecting them for holding out for £100m ?. Am I the only one that would just pay the £100 million for him if I were Chelsea? The kid took to the Premier League right away as a teen basically, and is still impossibly young. Unlike Rice he as also shown he can play that holding role in a progressive team that presses high and keeps the ball. They probably manage to get him for around £80 million if he didn't just sign that new contract in Jan, but he did. Another £20 million is hardly a disaster for him especially with the way they've been throwing money around already. So strange. The one player that is most likely to slot in and do well for them is the one they are hesitating on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, loki679 said: He'll lose about £15m quid on the transfer if he does. I’m sure he can afford it - go to work in Saudi for a month and he’ll earn it back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, KaKa said: Am I the only one that would just pay the £100 million for him if I were Chelsea? The kid took to the Premier League right away as a teen basically, and is still impossibly young. Unlike Rice he as also shown he can play that holding role in a progressive team that presses high and keeps the ball. They probably manage to get him for around £80 million if he didn't just sign that new contract in Jan, but he did. Another £20 million is hardly a disaster for him especially with the way they've been throwing money around already. So strange. The one player that is most likely to slot in and do well for them is the one they are hesitating on. Aye. He doesn’t carry the ball like Rice but everything else he seems to be at least as good as imo. But Caicedo is younger and can play more positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, duo said: Kane has every right to hand in a transfer request. I am surprised he hasn't. Would immediately lose loyalty bonus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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