Kimbo Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 If Rice is worth over £100m, I can't really say Caicedo isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kimbo said: If Rice is worth over £100m, I can't really say Caicedo isn't. Rice is better than Caicedo but neither are worth that much. Enzo is loads better than both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Scamacca joining Atalanta for £26mil Pretty huge flop for West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Deuce said: the whole “Bundesliga is trash” trope is going a little too far these days. Feels like folks would put it on par with the Belgian or Swiss leagues, when it’s clearly a top tier league. It's a great league. It's entertaining to watch, the support and ownership model is brilliant and produce/develop some of the best players and managers around. The issue is they just can't hang onto the players and managers for very long. The clubs are constantly having to do rebuild jobs as Bayern or other European sides raid them of all their talent. It's a bit sad as Dortmund are huge club and the biggest challengers and they are essentially viewed as a stepping stone club now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Reliable source for Saudi transfers apparently, although I'm sceptical a deal will move forward Quote Al-Ittihad club entered into serious negotiations to include Egyptian international Mohamed Salah during the current summer transfer period. A source close to the player told Al-Riyadiah, in an exclusive interview: “It is true. There are negotiations between Mohamed Salah and the Saudi club Al-Ittihad. This is what I can say, for now I have no other details.” The same source added, “The offer must be attractive for the Egyptian star to come to play in Saudi Arabia. Salah still has a lot to offer in England. Meanwhile, sources told Al-Riyadiah that the Western club’s offer to Salah amounts to 180 million euros for two seasons, in addition to 60 million pounds sterling to buy the remaining period of his contract from his English club, Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: Reliable source for Saudi transfers apparently, although I'm sceptical a deal will move forward Liverpool out of the title race if that goes through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ben said: Liverpool out of the title race if that goes through Fee mentioned ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, joeyt said: Scamacca joining Atalanta for £26mil Pretty huge flop for West Ham Pisses me off so much that ASM went for about the same as shite like Scamacca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, joeyt said: Scamacca joining Atalanta for £26mil Pretty huge flop for West Ham One of those transfers that will end with Scamacca ending up being top scorer in Serie A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, madras said: Fee mentioned ? £60 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ben said: £60 million For a 31yr old. That really should be investigated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Jaqen said: It's a great league. It's entertaining to watch, the support and ownership model is brilliant and produce/develop some of the best players and managers around. The issue is they just can't hang onto the players and managers for very long. The clubs are constantly having to do rebuild jobs as Bayern or other European sides raid them of all their talent. It's a bit sad as Dortmund are huge club and the biggest challengers and they are essentially viewed as a stepping stone club now. I respectfully disagree. There's a reason nobody watches it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jaqen said: It's a great league. It's entertaining to watch, the support and ownership model is brilliant and produce/develop some of the best players and managers around. The issue is they just can't hang onto the players and managers for very long. The clubs are constantly having to do rebuild jobs as Bayern or other European sides raid them of all their talent. It's a bit sad as Dortmund are huge club and the biggest challengers and they are essentially viewed as a stepping stone club now. It just looks broken to me - Germany’s national team decline is likely the result of just how broken the Bundesliga is. There is nothing entertaining about one team being so completely dominant that no-one else gets a look-in. And Bayern’s ultra-dominance has also seen them decline as a European power. The only challengers Bayern have had for any period over the last couple of decades - other than Dortmund - have all been vehicles for private companies - which pisses on the vaunted ‘50+1’ model (Bayer Leverkusen, Wolfsburg, RB Leipzig). Personal one this, but I’ve also never been able to ‘get into’ German football - it never felt like it had the glamour of Italian football, nor the technical brilliance of Spanish football. Edited August 6, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: It just looks broken to me - Germany’s national team decline is likely the result of just how broken the Bundesliga is. Centralisation of tactics that used to work now failing massively. No coincidence that the only team who have massively bucked the trend are Union despite being ‘smaller’ can actually defend and soak up pressure. I’m the same RE: Bundesliga. It should be better than it is and for me it’s too homogenous and not tactically diverse enough so all games are loosely the same. At the same time games are well attended, relatively affordable and two of the biggest clubs in the country are perennial basket cases in the Bundesliga 2 so they’re doing something more right than wrong over here. And if fans are happy and going to games that’s the only thing that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 This is probably the first year in a while I won't bother with the Bundesliga. Largely due to what Disco outlined above. The dominance of Bayern doesn't bother me too much, particularly given we're seeing similar trends in France and now England, but 90% of the league are basically working from the same blueprint. Even if some clubs are absolutely dreadful at it. When it comes to football, Germany get a lot right, far more than most. But a bit of variation in tactics and ideas would make for a far more entertaining watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Kimbo said: If Rice is worth over £100m, I can't really say Caicedo isn't. Caicedo is one of the best midfielders in the league already at just 21 years old. He can play the holding role, box to box and also slotted into right back last season and played the inverted full back role. If Havertz is £65 million, Cucurella is £60 million, and £100 million is being paid for Grealish and Rice then Brighton can absolutely ask that for Caicedo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Interesting signing, obviously supposed to be the replacement for Rice. We were linked with him multiple times I seem to remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Not seen him play but seen a bit of scepticism about him being quite limited on the ball. Quite a bit of the Rice money involved in the deal too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Decent price for him I think. Good deal for West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Shearergol said: Rice is better than Caicedo but neither are worth that much. Enzo is loads better than both. From what I’ve seen (diabolical Chelsea management tbf) I’d rather Rice or Caicedo. Rice and Caicedo are physically dominant and both can play. Enzo needs someone like that alongside him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Let’s see how Caicedo gets on once he leaves that mystical heaven of a place on the South coast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Every Liverpool fan I know online has been having a meltdown recently. Very unhappy with their transfer business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Sander Berge to Burnley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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