Guest Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 The Glazer's have taken £1bn out of the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: How is he a great signing ? Vastly overpaying for an unproven player us not a great signing !! Bellingham could be classed as a great signing but he still comes with risk. These reporters talking about £100 million like it's pocket change is vulgar, imagine what you could buy in the real world with that sort of money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Froggy said: Why are you comparing 10 windows to 3? We've also generated £580m more in revenue than Chelsea in that period. We spend within our means. I’m talking about net spend over 5 years figures are from transfer market. I just found it interesting you lot had spent even more over that period despite them going absolutely mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ben said: How is he a great signing ? Vastly overpaying for an unproven player us not a great signing !! Bellingham could be classed as a great signing but he still comes with risk. These reporters talking about £100 million like it's pocket change is vulgar, imagine what you could buy in the real world with that sort of money Zidane to Real cost £55M once upon a time... That was world class. I think there is more to meet the eye with the £100+ transfer fees.... Liverpool paying £45M for MacAllister, then £100odd for Caicedo seems fishy. Brighton being able to sell for millions and millions seems odd. We sold ASM to Saudi for £25M, but Brighton can sell players hundred million plus. Horrible to think is Hayden, Fraser, Hendrick could be sold to release some FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ben said: How is he a great signing ? Vastly overpaying for an unproven player us not a great signing !! Bellingham could be classed as a great signing but he still comes with risk. These reporters talking about £100 million like it's pocket change is vulgar, imagine what you could buy in the real world with that sort of money Caicedo isn't unproven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Froggy playing the bad owners card on here is like a middle class kid wandering onto a council estate complaining his parents won’t send him to Val de Saire on the RGS ski trip. We get it you don’t like the glazers but we sat and watched (and aye, some of us even stopped watching) Ashley run this club into the actual ground. Man Utd have spent and spent and spent. Aye they’ve pissed half of it up the wall but that’s a completely different conversation. ‘buh buh but the debt’…piss off man you’ve won everything there is to win since the glazers took over. 13 trophies with them in charge. Cry me a fucking river. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Chelsea's line up yesterday was pretty average considering the 800m spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Froggy said: Caicedo isn't unproven. He certainly hasn't proven himself to be "world class". He may well become world class in the future. Until that time comes, he is unproven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ben said: These reporters talking about £100 million like it's pocket change is vulgar, imagine what you could buy in the real world with that sort of money An oligarch’s super yacht or a boat load of Michelle Mine’s dicey PPE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, BoSelecta said: Froggy playing the bad owners card on here is like a middle class kid wandering onto a council estate complaining his parents won’t send him to Val de Saire on the RGS ski trip. We get it you don’t like the glazers but we sat and watched (and aye, some of us even stopped watching) Ashley run this club into the actual ground. Man Utd have spent and spent and spent. Aye they’ve pissed half of it up the wall but that’s a completely different conversation. ‘buh buh but the debt’…piss off man you’ve won everything there is to win since the glazers took over. 13 trophies with them in charge. Cry me a fucking river. I'm not playing the bad owners card at all. Merely responding to comments when someone mentions the Glazers. Ashley ran your club into the ground and the Glazer's are doing the same to us. Spend or success doesn't change that. We were rich and successful before they took over. Debt is reaching breaking point. Old Trafford is falling apart. The bust is coming if they don't sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, gazza ladra said: He certainly hasn't proven himself to be "world class". He may well become world class in the future. Until that time comes, he is unproven. If we're talking about him in terms of being world class then maybe aye, but that wasn't what was said. He has proven to be an excellent player in the Premier League at 20/21 years of age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Froggy, Really? You don't pay in excess of £100M on an "excellent young player". How much do pay for a world class player then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, gazza ladra said: Froggy, Really? You don't pay in excess of £100M on an "excellent young player". How much do pay for a world class player then? What do you define as world class? £100 is probably the bench mark now for young players who are already very good. Not saying I agree with it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Bellingham and Kane make sense at 100m. Guaranteed goals and one of the best young players in the world. Bellingham is like Joao Felix costing over 100m, golden boy etc etc. If Barca sold Gavi or Pedri or Bayern sold Musiala I’d expect over £100m too. Enzo and Caicedo even with inflation is lazy and overpriced purchasing. They are good players with high potential but not the best in their positions. I wouldn’t swap either of them for any of our first choice midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 £100m for a very good young player is the going rate for clubs that spend idiotically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Caceido will be an interesting litmus test on whether it’s the players or the system that allow Brighton to shine. Mac Allister showed he could play well for Argentina but Cucarella and Caceido are relying more on their Brighton form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Caicedo at that price can never be class as a great signing. Even in this market it feels £50 million over priced. That fee impacts their ability to strengthen elsewhere, something they need to do if they are to match their ambitions and given that their team still looks unbalanced. Signings are only 'great' when all the pieces fall into place which with this one I don't think they do. I would argue he's semi proven at this stage, in that he has done well, not for that long, in a team that is well coached and has a specific style of play that suits him. You can't be sure how this will translate. He's also never played in the Champions League, so at that level he is firmly unproven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Load of fuckin shite I'd put Joelinton up against him any day of the week. He seems like a right spoilt brat that downs tools when can't get his own way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Haaland to Man City for pennies on a release clause, then Kovacic and Gvardiol going to City for comparative peanuts just goes to show - it's the agent you know. Ruben Neves playing for Wolves in the Championship - it's the agent you know. I don't trust what's going on at Brighton regarding outgoing transfers - Cucarella, MacAllister, White, Caicaedo, Bissouma, Maupay is not £300-350ish worth of footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said: Haaland to Man City for pennies on a release clause, then Kovacic and Gvardiol going to City for comparative peanuts just goes to show - it's the agent you know. Ruben Neves playing for Wolves in the Championship - it's the agent you know. Agree on Kovacic but Gvardiol wasn’t peanuts by any stretch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Caicedo is better than Joelinton like. Just as physical but a cleaner tackler and a better passer. Joelinton better at carrying the ball and more of a goal threat. Caicedo is like Ben White and MacAllister. Just a class all round footballer. Burn has done well for us. Trossard again is a very good all round player. I think Bissouma will be decent for spurs this season. It’s only Cucu who I don’t rate at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Agree on Kovacic but Gvardiol wasn’t peanuts by any stretch. The $100m peanut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: The $100m peanut. I really wish they paid a few million more so Maguire wasn't the most expensive defender of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Agree on Kovacic but Gvardiol wasn’t peanuts by any stretch. 70ish million, aye not peanuts but it seemed nailed on that he was going to move to Man City all summer. Arguably the best young CB in the world. Gvardiol to Man City was sealed up all summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said: 70ish million, aye not peanuts but it seemed nailed on that he was going to move to Man City all summer. Arguably the best young CB in the world. Gvardiol to Man City was sealed up all summer. So? They agreed the fee for him and he was happy to sign for them. I don’t get the conspiracy theory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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