Other clubs' transfers

[et tu brute]

7 minutes ago, Menace said:

Pretty obvious they value their league ahead of us like, just shit they are strengthening direct rivals.

Not their fault that the deadwood we have are so bad or have turned down moves. Or would you rather they come and buy our top players?

[Ellis H]

Since Mitoma signed (in the league only)

 

Mitoma - 35 G/A in 62.6 games

Murphy - 28 G/A in 40.7 games

[gdm]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

Don't think it's particularly fishy. PIF want the domestic league to be a serious player. Providing its clubs with the cash to buy players who legitimise it is the game here.

£90m for Mitoma is pretty mental 

[Kaizero]

11 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

Since Mitoma signed (in the league only)

 

Mitoma - 35 G/A in 62.6 games

Murphy - 28 G/A in 40.7 games

 

Of players with 15 or more appearances for NUFC, Murphy has the 11th highest Assists per Minute ratio of all NUFC players during the PL era.

 

 

Edited January 30 by Kaizero

[Kaizero]

2 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Of players with 15 or more appearances for NUFC, Murphy has the 11th highest Assists per Minute ratio of all NUFC players during the PL era.

 

 

 

 

Top 25, for anyone curious:

1. Asprilla - 1 in 186
2. Carroll - 1 in 243
3. Viana - 1 in 270
4. Marveux - 1 in 276
5. Sellars - 1 in 305
6. Solano - 1 in 326
7. Cole - 1 in 326
8. Fox - 1 in 328
9. Robert - 1 in 331
10. Gordon - 1 in 344
11. Murphy - 1 in 357
12. Ginola - 1 in 357
13. Rondon - 1 in 373
14. Ben Arfa - 1 in 374
15. Chopra - 1 in 374
16. Trippier - 1 in 384
17. Saint-Maximin - 1 in 388
18. Ferdinand - 1 in 390
19. Barnes - 1 in 392
20. Barton - 1 in 410
21. Miley - 1 in 417
22. N’Zogbia - 1 in 421
23. Obertan - 1 in 422
24. Beardsley - 1 in 429
25. Geremi - 1 in 441

 

 

Edited January 30 by Kaizero

[gdm]

1 hour ago, Elric said:

Any hint of an inflated fee where we're concerned = immediate investigation over fair market value

 

Other clubs = partridgeshrug.gif

 

... is basically what it is. 

 

 

That’s the nature of being owned by the Saudis. If Man Utd were owned by them instead of us we’d be damn right up in arms if they were selling say Eriksen for above fair market value to them. The whole thing is bollocks 

[SEMTEX]

4 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Top 25, for anyone curious:

1. Asprilla - 1 in 186
2. Carroll - 1 in 243
3. Viana - 1 in 270
4. Marveux - 1 in 276
5. Sellars - 1 in 305
6. Solano - 1 in 326
7. Cole - 1 in 326
8. Fox - 1 in 328
9. Robert - 1 in 331
10. Gordon - 1 in 344
11. Murphy - 1 in 357
12. Ginola - 1 in 357
13. Rondon - 1 in 373
14. Ben Arfa - 1 in 374
15. Chopra - 1 in 374
16. Trippier - 1 in 384
17. Saint-Maximin - 1 in 388
18. Ferdinand - 1 in 390
19. Barnes - 1 in 392
20. Barton - 1 in 410
21. Miley - 1 in 417
22. N’Zogbia - 1 in 421
23. Obertan - 1 in 422
24. Beardsley - 1 in 429
25. Geremi - 1 in 441

 

 

 

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

[Kaizero]

5 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

 

Transfermarkt career history, referencing only the PL section of the NUFC period of their career. Lists Apps, Assists and Minutes Played (and more). Spent far too long making a complete list to respond to a bsky post a few days ago, ended up getting three likes 

 

[Kaizero]

8 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

 

 

Give me a few minutes

[SEMTEX]

just make AI do it man

[Kaizero]

19 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

 

At least 50 games + 20 assists:

 

Player ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Apps‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assists‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Minutes‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assist per Minute

1. Robert‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9595‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 282
2. Solano‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 230‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 54‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 17636‎‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 327
3. Murphy‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 170‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 23‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 8229‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 358
4. Guimarães‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 109‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 20‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9047‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 425
5. Beardsley‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 11153‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 429
6. Dyer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 190‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 32‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14928‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 466
7. Ameobi‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 295‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 31‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14820‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 478
8. Lee‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 267‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 22483‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 661
9. Shearer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 40‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 658

 

[Kaizero]

9 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

just make AI do it man

 

Already have a list compiled. I used ChatGPT to help put it together, admittedly.

[SEMTEX]

At the risk of making light of your work… it probably needs to be a bit bigger now  

 

minimum 40 games 15 assists? 
 

I’ll share it with my football whatsapp group and cite you/chatgpt, if that would help you decide whether to redo it. 

[Kaizero]

16 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

At least 50 games + 20 assists:

 

Player ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Apps‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assists‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Minutes‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assist per Minute

1. Robert‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9595‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 282
2. Solano‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 230‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 54‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 17636‎‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 327
3. Murphy‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 170‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 23‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 8229‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 358
4. Guimarães‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 109‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 20‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9047‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 425
5. Beardsley‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 11153‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 429
6. Dyer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 190‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 32‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14928‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 466
7. Ameobi‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 295‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 31‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14820‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 478
8. Lee‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 267‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 22483‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 661
9. Shearer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 40‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 658

 

 

I enjoy trivia like the fact Ameobi and Shearer have almost the same amount of PL appearances for us, yet Ameobi has almost half the total amounts of minutes on the pitch  

[duo]

I hope Mathys Tel doesn't end up at Spurs be a waste

[Kaizero]

1 hour ago, SEMTEX said:

At the risk of making light of your work… it probably needs to be a bit bigger now  

 

minimum 40 games 15 assists? 
 

I’ll share it with my football whatsapp group and cite you/chatgpt, if that would help you decide whether to redo it. 

 

Assist per Minute with at least 40 Apps and 15 assists:

1. Asprilla – 1 in 186
2. Robert – 1 in 282
3. Solano – 1 in 327
4. Fox – 1 in 328
5. Cole – 1 in 326
6. Gordon – 1 in 344
7. Murphy – 1 in 358
8. Trippier – 1 in 384
9. Saint-Maximin – 1 in 388
10. Ferdinand – 1 in 390
11. N’Zogbia – 1 in 421
12. Guimarães – 1 in 425
13. Beardsley – 1 in 429
14. Bellamy – 1 in 456
15. Dyer – 1 in 466
16. Ameobi – 1 in 478
17. Ritchie – 1 in 550
18. Gillespie – 1 in 557
19. Sissoko – 1 in 609
20. Shearer – 1 in 658
21. Lee – 1 in 661
22. Gutierrez – 1 in 805
23. Speed – 1 in 1312
     

Assist per Minute with at least 40 Apps and 10 assists:

1. Asprilla - 1 in 186
2. Carroll - 1 in 243
3. Robert - 1 in 282
4. Sellars - 1 in 305
5. Cole - 1 in 326
6. Solano - 1 in 327
7. Fox - 1 in 328
8. Gordon - 1 in 344
9. Ginola - 1 in 357
10. Murphy - 1 in 358
11. Ben Arfa - 1 in 374
12. Trippier - 1 in 384
13. Saint-Maximin - 1 in 388
14. Ferdinand - 1 in 390
15. Barton - 1 in 410
16. N’Zogbia - 1 in 421
17. Guimarães - 1 in 425
18. Beardsley - 1 in 429
19. Bellamy - 1 in 456
20. Dyer - 1 in 466
21. Ameobi - 1 in 478
22. Ritchie - 1 in 550
23. Gillespie - 1 in 557
24. Wilson - 1 in 582
25. Cabaye - 1 in 587
26. Janmaat - 1 in 601
27. Sissoko - 1 in 609
28. Milner - 1 in 648
29. Shearer - 1 in 658
30. Lee - 1 in 661
31. Gutierrez - 1 in 805
32. Shelvey - 1 in 849
33. Beresford - 1 in 994
34. Warren Barton - 1 in 1153
35. Speed - 1 in 1312
     

Main takeaway really seems to be that across the 29 PL seasons (of 32) we have participated in, we only have 35 players with at least 10 assists total  

 

 

Edited January 30 by Kaizero

[SEMTEX]

fuck this thing wasn't in order man Murphy 1 in 358 is way down

 

 

Assist per Minute with at least 40 Apps and 15 assists:

Asprilla – 1 in 186

Robert – 1 in 282

Solano – 1 in 327

Fox – 1 in 328

Cole – 1 in 326

Gordon – 1 in 344

Saint-Maximin – 1 in 388

Ferdinand – 1 in 390

Trippier – 1 in 384

N’Zogbia – 1 in 421

Guimarães – 1 in 425

Beardsley – 1 in 429

Bellamy – 1 in 456

Dyer – 1 in 466

Ameobi – 1 in 478

Murphy – 1 in 358

Ritchie – 1 in 550

Gillespie – 1 in 557

Sissoko – 1 in 609

Shearer – 1 in 658

Lee – 1 in 661

Gutierrez – 1 in 805

Speed – 1 in 1312

[Kaizero]

33 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

fuck this thing wasn't in order man Murphy 1 in 358 is way down

 

 

Assist per Minute with at least 40 Apps and 15 assists:

Asprilla – 1 in 186

Robert – 1 in 282

Solano – 1 in 327

Fox – 1 in 328

Cole – 1 in 326

Gordon – 1 in 344

Saint-Maximin – 1 in 388

Ferdinand – 1 in 390

Trippier – 1 in 384

N’Zogbia – 1 in 421

Guimarães – 1 in 425

Beardsley – 1 in 429

Bellamy – 1 in 456

Dyer – 1 in 466

Ameobi – 1 in 478

Murphy – 1 in 358

Ritchie – 1 in 550

Gillespie – 1 in 557

Sissoko – 1 in 609

Shearer – 1 in 658

Lee – 1 in 661

Gutierrez – 1 in 805

Speed – 1 in 1312

 

What I get for trusting ChatGPT to do anything correctly  

 

Should be sorted in my post now  

[r0cafella]

 Big Mitoma fan but the Saudis are mental

 

We've obviously discussed at length on here the investment in us but what they are doing with the league they have is the biggest sporting waste of money the world has ever seen. Once Ronaldo has his boots up they will have a bucket load of overpaid players nobody is interested in. 

[brummie]

30 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

 Big Mitoma fan but the Saudis are mental

 

We've obviously discussed at length on here the investment in us but what they are doing with the league they have is the biggest sporting waste of money the world has ever seen. Once Ronaldo has his boots up they will have a bucket load of overpaid players nobody is interested in. 

 

Exactly, it doesn't even stack up as a sportswashing exercise.

 

Two or three years into it and the Saudi league is every bit as irrelevant as ever - it is the project of people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

 

How many Saudi clubs can we even name?

 

Al-Nassr

Al-Ettifaq

Al-Yankovic

Al-Jarreau

Al-Gore

 

And that's about it.

[Nobody]

6 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Exactly, it doesn't even stack up as a sportswashing exercise.

 

Two or three years into it and the Saudi league is every bit as irrelevant as ever - it is the project of people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

 

How many Saudi clubs can we even name?

 

Al-Nassr

Al-Ettifaq

Al-Yankovic

Al-Jarreau

Al-Gore

 

And that's about it.

:lol:

[Mike]

6 hours ago, Sibierski said:

Our fee for ASM as each season window passes was proper shit wasn’t it? 

 

Hot take: Bring him hyem. (on lyoan)

[JUICE690]

20 minutes ago, brummie said:

How many Saudi clubs can we even name?

 

 

 

And that's about it.

 

[Infinitely Content]

32 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Exactly, it doesn't even stack up as a sportswashing exercise.

 

Two or three years into it and the Saudi league is every bit as irrelevant as ever - it is the project of people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

 

How many Saudi clubs can we even name?

 

Al-Nassr

Al-Ettifaq

Al-Yankovic

Al-Jarreau

Al-Gore

 

And that's about it.

Big Al

[The College Dropout]

Where does Miggy rank in assists?