Guest reefatoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Hhmmm. Rafa will be seething about all of this. Hopefully he is tearing into Charnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 If Ashley bins Rafa - it's game over for me. Takeover will collapse too., Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 As if they would tell his staff to go home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 If Ashley bins Rafa - it's game over for me. Takeover will collapse too., Yep, PCP reportedly want Rafa as manager. If he goes/is sacked, then I suspect they'll walk away too. Anyway, lets not panic (yet) over a spurious tweet that's since been deleted. Hopefully its (only) a crunch meeting about transfer budget/targets with the window about to open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 The real question is who locked the door. Penfold wouldn't dare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Who was the tweet from, out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm still behind him, but I'm worried. Our subs always seem to be too late, we never seem proactive. Can't remember any points we've gained from a well timed sub. The continued selection of Joselu is hurting us. Wish we'd saved the Joselu and Murphy money and bought the best number 10 we could for £18 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm still behind him, but I'm worried. Our subs always seem to be too late, we never seem proactive. Can't remember any points we've gained from a well timed sub. The continued selection of Joselu is hurting us. Wish we'd saved the Joselu and Murphy money and bought the best number 10 we could for £18 million. Perhaps he was lied to about his budget. Maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm still behind him, but I'm worried. Our subs always seem to be too late, we never seem proactive. Can't remember any points we've gained from a well timed sub. The continued selection of Joselu is hurting us. Wish we'd saved the Joselu and Murphy money and bought the best number 10 we could for £18 million. Again, the actual spending of the money is down to Ashley/Charnley getting the deal 'over the line'. I'm sure if it were down to Rafa, he'd ave spent it all on one player he really wanted, but feet were dragged, time was wasted and he ended up getting what he got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 havent read the past 15 pages or so but it must have been mentioned. rafa needs to come out and explain why he is persisting with a 442 when a 4231 was getting results. he may have tried it initially to keep those that wanted more attacking football happy. but when it was clear it wasnt working - why hasnt he reverted to our initial formation. we dont have enough quality in a midfield duo to dominate even the lower haf teams. we need a 3. I wish any of the regular journalists was brave enough to ask something like this, unfortunately they're not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 We're shit because Ashley gave Rafa no money to get us a team fit for the premier league. It was always going to be a difficult season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thing is no one knows how much input Rafa had in choosing these players. Anyone saying otherwise is spouting BS. They could have been Rafa’s signings or they could have been pushed upon him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thing is no one knows how much input Rafa had in choosing these players. Anyone saying otherwise is spouting BS. They could have been Rafa’s signings or they could have been pushed upon him. Look at history. As I mentioned earlier, Keegan had players pushed upon him that he didn't want. Pardew even said he had players he wanted but didn't get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thing is no one knows how much input Rafa had in choosing these players. Anyone saying otherwise is spouting BS. They could have been Rafa’s signings or they could have been pushed upon him. They're Rafa's signings, he technically chose them. But to some the amount of money he was given to do it, how far down the list they were, and the players he wanted that Charnley and co failed to sign, isn't taken into account and in some cases not at all understood when they proceed to criticise him for the signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thing is no one knows how much input Rafa had in choosing these players. Anyone saying otherwise is spouting BS. They could have been Rafa’s signings or they could have been pushed upon him. Look at history. As I mentioned earlier, Keegan had players pushed upon him that he didn't want. Pardew even said he had players he wanted but didn't get. Also, its always been Ashley's lackies that actually do the deals... hence reports of them throwing in paltry low bids for players who command much higher fees. Rafa can ask for whoever he wants, but if they won't/don't want to pay the fees/wages, what can he do?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thing is no one knows how much input Rafa had in choosing these players. Anyone saying otherwise is spouting BS. They could have been Rafa’s signings or they could have been pushed upon him. Look at history. As I mentioned earlier, Keegan had players pushed upon him that he didn't want. Pardew even said he had players he wanted but didn't get. Also, its always been Ashley's lackies that actually do the deals... hence reports of them throwing in paltry low bids for players who command much higher fees. Rafa can ask for whoever he wants, but if they won't/don't want to pay the fees/wages, what can he do?? Exactly. That's how we end up with 57th choice strikers like Joselu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 The real question is who locked the door. rafa did, he's still chasing penfold around the office doing windmills shouting in spanish "show meee the moneyyyy" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 about 98% for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm still behind him, but I'm worried. Our subs always seem to be too late, we never seem proactive. Can't remember any points we've gained from a well timed sub. The continued selection of Joselu is hurting us. Wish we'd saved the Joselu and Murphy money and bought the best number 10 we could for £18 million. I'm in agreement on the bolded but feel this is another hindrance from our transfer 'strategy'. The initial price may be doable, but I feel Ashley massively fucks about on the wages, too. For example, didn't Gibbs go for only a couple more million than we got Manquillo for? But he's probably on three times as much a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Serbia Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him 100% !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him 100% !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Behind him 100% !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I'm still behind him, but I'm worried. Our subs always seem to be too late, we never seem proactive. Can't remember any points we've gained from a well timed sub. The continued selection of Joselu is hurting us. Wish we'd saved the Joselu and Murphy money and bought the best number 10 we could for £18 million. I'm in agreement on the bolded but feel this is another hindrance from our transfer 'strategy'. The initial price may be doable, but I feel Ashley massively f***s about on the wages, too. For example, didn't Gibbs go for only a couple more million than we got Manquillo for? But he's probably on three times as much a week. Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Bad match today, but Rafa is the man. I have no problem giving him time [emoji1360] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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