Gallowgate End Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I decided to finally listen to the TF podcast post Arsenal that had Luke Edwards as the featured guest. So let me say this first and foremost, most of us are not privy to the off the record stuff the local press hears, so I can understand that there are interpretations of those comments, body language etc. but one thing I can’t seem to understand guys like Edwards can’t get their head around is that Rafa has ultimately said one of the main reasons he left for his Chinese club is that the owner, chairman etc all absolutely wanted Rafa and his staff and spent ages courting him. They paid whatever it took to get him,they listen to him, they have ambitious plans for their club that a self professed football addict like Rafa would love, they consult him on those long and short term plans, and most importantly they trust and value him as the elite world class football manager that he has proven to be over his illustrious career. So compare that to the Championship season January transfer window and onwards; fucked about on Andros, Ashley pulls 30m out of the club, slow transfers and not much to spend each window, fucked about on Rondon, ages to sign Almiron - supposed control he had looks like only words on a paper. He can only essentially veto deals but can’t push his targets through. Wage structure piss poor. Sees colleagues in the PL getting more than he does in terms of football investment. He says he needs improvements to academy and training ground - it’s not up to standards of a football club like NUFC in the PL and he’s told it’s adequate. This is from a glorified accountant turned Chairman and an owner of a horrendous retail umbrella company. There is no trust. There is no value. There is no respect for one of UEFA’s elite coaches, there is no gratitude that this man has got you PL football back and turns profits on your speculative acquisitions. Each summer we don’t invest into the first team we’re losing ground, Rafa thought. He wanted this club to fly high and be a top 6 club again and had a plan to get it there over a few years.... yet Rafa is to blame for going for “money?” Ha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Why do people still listen to Talksport FFS?! It is literally a wind up radio station for people with IQs under 40. As I like to masturbate when I hear Natalie Sawyer talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I decided to finally listen to the TF podcast post Arsenal that had Luke Edwards as the featured guest. So let me say this first and foremost, most of us are not privy to the off the record stuff the local press hears, so I can understand that there are interpretations of those comments, body language etc. but one thing I can’t seem to understand guys like Edwards can’t get their head around is that Rafa has ultimately said one of the main reasons he left for his Chinese club is that the owner, chairman etc all absolutely wanted Rafa and his staff and spent ages courting him. They paid whatever it took to get him, they listen to him, they have ambitious plans for their club that a self professed football addict like Rafa would love, they consult him on those long and short term plans, and most importantly they trust and value him as the elite world class football manager that he has proven to be over his illustrious career. So compare that to the Championship season January transfer window and onwards; fucked about on Andros, Ashley pulls 30m out of the club, slow transfers and not much to spend each window, fucked about on Rondon, ages to sign Almiron - supposed control he had looks like only words on a paper. He can only essentially veto deals but can’t push his targets through. Wage structure piss poor. Sees colleagues in the PL getting more than he does in terms of football investment. He says he needs improvements to academy and training ground - it’s not up to standards of a football club like NUFC in the PL and he’s told it’s adequate. This is from a glorified accountant turned Chairman and an owner of a horrendous retail umbrella company. There is no trust. There is no value. There is no respect for one of UEFA’s elite coaches, there is no gratitude that this man has got you PL football back and turns profits on your speculative acquisitions. Each summer we don’t invest into the first team we’re losing ground, Rafa thought. He wanted this club to fly high and be a top 6 club again and had a plan to get it there over a few years....yet Rafa is to blame for going for “money?” Ha! Great post, K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I decided to finally listen to the TF podcast post Arsenal that had Luke Edwards as the featured guest. So let me say this first and foremost, most of us are not privy to the off the record stuff the local press hears, so I can understand that there are interpretations of those comments, body language etc. but one thing I can’t seem to understand guys like Edwards can’t get their head around is that Rafa has ultimately said one of the main reasons he left for his Chinese club is that the owner, chairman etc all absolutely wanted Rafa and his staff and spent ages courting him. They paid whatever it took to get him, they listen to him, they have ambitious plans for their club that a self professed football addict like Rafa would love, they consult him on those long and short term plans, and most importantly they trust and value him as the elite world class football manager that he has proven to be over his illustrious career. So compare that to the Championship season January transfer window and onwards; fucked about on Andros, Ashley pulls 30m out of the club, slow transfers and not much to spend each window, fucked about on Rondon, ages to sign Almiron - supposed control he had looks like only words on a paper. He can only essentially veto deals but can’t push his targets through. Wage structure piss poor. Sees colleagues in the PL getting more than he does in terms of football investment. He says he needs improvements to academy and training ground - it’s not up to standards of a football club like NUFC in the PL and he’s told it’s adequate. This is from a glorified accountant turned Chairman and an owner of a horrendous retail umbrella company. There is no trust. There is no value. There is no respect for one of UEFA’s elite coaches, there is no gratitude that this man has got you PL football back and turns profits on your speculative acquisitions. Each summer we don’t invest into the first team we’re losing ground, Rafa thought. He wanted this club to fly high and be a top 6 club again and had a plan to get it there over a few years....yet Rafa is to blame for going for “money?” Ha! Magnificent post this but gut-wrenching at the same time :'( :'( :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko NUFC Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I decided to finally listen to the TF podcast post Arsenal that had Luke Edwards as the featured guest. So let me say this first and foremost, most of us are not privy to the off the record stuff the local press hears, so I can understand that there are interpretations of those comments, body language etc. but one thing I can’t seem to understand guys like Edwards can’t get their head around is that Rafa has ultimately said one of the main reasons he left for his Chinese club is that the owner, chairman etc all absolutely wanted Rafa and his staff and spent ages courting him. They paid whatever it took to get him,they listen to him, they have ambitious plans for their club that a self professed football addict like Rafa would love, they consult him on those long and short term plans, and most importantly they trust and value him as the elite world class football manager that he has proven to be over his illustrious career. So compare that to the Championship season January transfer window and onwards; fucked about on Andros, Ashley pulls 30m out of the club, slow transfers and not much to spend each window, fucked about on Rondon, ages to sign Almiron - supposed control he had looks like only words on a paper. He can only essentially veto deals but can’t push his targets through. Wage structure piss poor. Sees colleagues in the PL getting more than he does in terms of football investment. He says he needs improvements to academy and training ground - it’s not up to standards of a football club like NUFC in the PL and he’s told it’s adequate. This is from a glorified accountant turned Chairman and an owner of a horrendous retail umbrella company. There is no trust. There is no value. There is no respect for one of UEFA’s elite coaches, there is no gratitude that this man has got you PL football back and turns profits on your speculative acquisitions. Each summer we don’t invest into the first team we’re losing ground, Rafa thought. He wanted this club to fly high and be a top 6 club again and had a plan to get it there over a few years.... yet Rafa is to blame for going for “money?” Ha! This should be framed and put in front of SJP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I decided to finally listen to the TF podcast post Arsenal that had Luke Edwards as the featured guest. So let me say this first and foremost, most of us are not privy to the off the record stuff the local press hears, so I can understand that there are interpretations of those comments, body language etc. but one thing I can’t seem to understand guys like Edwards can’t get their head around is that Rafa has ultimately said one of the main reasons he left for his Chinese club is that the owner, chairman etc all absolutely wanted Rafa and his staff and spent ages courting him. They paid whatever it took to get him, they listen to him, they have ambitious plans for their club that a self professed football addict like Rafa would love, they consult him on those long and short term plans, and most importantly they trust and value him as the elite world class football manager that he has proven to be over his illustrious career. So compare that to the Championship season January transfer window and onwards; fucked about on Andros, Ashley pulls 30m out of the club, slow transfers and not much to spend each window, fucked about on Rondon, ages to sign Almiron - supposed control he had looks like only words on a paper. He can only essentially veto deals but can’t push his targets through. Wage structure piss poor. Sees colleagues in the PL getting more than he does in terms of football investment. He says he needs improvements to academy and training ground - it’s not up to standards of a football club like NUFC in the PL and he’s told it’s adequate. This is from a glorified accountant turned Chairman and an owner of a horrendous retail umbrella company. There is no trust. There is no value. There is no respect for one of UEFA’s elite coaches, there is no gratitude that this man has got you PL football back and turns profits on your speculative acquisitions. Each summer we don’t invest into the first team we’re losing ground, Rafa thought. He wanted this club to fly high and be a top 6 club again and had a plan to get it there over a few years....yet Rafa is to blame for going for “money?” Ha! Should be sent to every shit media outlet out there who peddle their usual shite about NUFC, It's fans and Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyne81 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Why do people still listen to Talksport FFS?! It is literally a wind up radio station for people with IQs under 40. As I like to masturbate when I hear Natalie Sawyer talk. Ah mean come on, even if she whispered in my ear I've lost my job, house and kids forever I'd still be on the vinegar stroke before I even undid my zip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I decided to finally listen to the TF podcast post Arsenal that had Luke Edwards as the featured guest. So let me say this first and foremost, most of us are not privy to the off the record stuff the local press hears, so I can understand that there are interpretations of those comments, body language etc. but one thing I can’t seem to understand guys like Edwards can’t get their head around is that Rafa has ultimately said one of the main reasons he left for his Chinese club is that the owner, chairman etc all absolutely wanted Rafa and his staff and spent ages courting him. They paid whatever it took to get him, they listen to him, they have ambitious plans for their club that a self professed football addict like Rafa would love, they consult him on those long and short term plans, and most importantly they trust and value him as the elite world class football manager that he has proven to be over his illustrious career. So compare that to the Championship season January transfer window and onwards; fucked about on Andros, Ashley pulls 30m out of the club, slow transfers and not much to spend each window, fucked about on Rondon, ages to sign Almiron - supposed control he had looks like only words on a paper. He can only essentially veto deals but can’t push his targets through. Wage structure piss poor. Sees colleagues in the PL getting more than he does in terms of football investment. He says he needs improvements to academy and training ground - it’s not up to standards of a football club like NUFC in the PL and he’s told it’s adequate. This is from a glorified accountant turned Chairman and an owner of a horrendous retail umbrella company. There is no trust. There is no value. There is no respect for one of UEFA’s elite coaches, there is no gratitude that this man has got you PL football back and turns profits on your speculative acquisitions. Each summer we don’t invest into the first team we’re losing ground, Rafa thought. He wanted this club to fly high and be a top 6 club again and had a plan to get it there over a few years....yet Rafa is to blame for going for “money?” Ha! Should be sent to every shit media outlet out there who peddle their usual shite about NUFC, It's fans and Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Simon Jordan slams former Newcastle manager Rafa Benitez when discussing hypocrisy in football Former Crystal Palace owner Simon Jordan has launched another attack on former Newcastle United manager Rafa Benitez. Jordan, who now works as a pundit for TalkSPORT, has been outspoken on his thoughts about Benitez throughout the summer. The 51-year-old has claimed in the past he felt Benitez merely did his job by keeping Newcastle in the Premier League insisting he does not 'subscribe to the view that Benitez walks on water'. He has also criticised his motives in moving to China and felt he was always using Newcastle as a 'stepping stone' for a bigger job. And in his column for the Sun, Jordan has spoken about 'hypocrite managers' with Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola and Benitez his focus. And he has once again criticised the Spaniard while also discussing the 'hypocrisies' of football fans. "Fans who have sided with Benitez, the boss who had been appointed by . . . yep, Mike Ashley — a man who can do no right, albeit is sometimes justifiably criticised," Jordan said. "And Rafa has been able to use that by peddling the mantra, having been paid a king’s ransom over three years on Tyneside by the owner, that he left because of trust issues with the club. "A boss who opted to snap up a £12m-a-year role in the backwater of Chinese football, having endlessly and incessantly broken that trust he was supposed to have with his boss by constantly briefing against him in the media. "His sole focus was to advance his own opportunities, whether it was for a bigger job or more money. "One of the biggest hypocrisies of all is the expectation of the fans themselves, demanding owners must come through the door, give them exactly what they want in terms of elite players, without caring less about who they are or where they got their money from. "And the fans — who having seen money splashed out on their sides — then complain about the owner having no value for club and that the culture has changed from what it used to be. "Fans who scream their demands for more signings to be made and new deals be handed out to good players, and then moan when the price of the season ticket has gone up as a result. "Are any of these hypocrisies? My guess is that if it walks, talks and eats like a duck, then yes it’s a duck." https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/simon-jordan-slams-former-newcastle-16789357 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I'm pretty sure Benitez approached NUFC, not the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Another rent a quote pundit speaking the party line, if I hear someone mentions expectation and Newcastle in the same sentence again I think I'll scream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Read the first line, scrolled down, not reading that blood pressure inducing, violence enticing, rent-a-quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Not that surprising really, all owners want a manager who will fall in line. Or at least the really shit ones do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Why are the Chronicle obsessed with whatever drivel is spouted on TalkShite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 talksport = fox news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Why are the Chronicle obsessed with whatever drivel is spouted on TalkShite? Hanoitoon on twitter pointed out that the Chronicle have a content partnership with TalkShite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Why are the Chronicle obsessed with whatever drivel is spouted on TalkShite? Hanoitoon on twitter pointed out that the Chronicle have a content partnership with TalkShite. Talk sport for all it's shortcomings, is the only national sports radio broadcaster in this country, so there's always plenty of stories for the useless newspapers to fill up their column inches. I switch off whenever the likes of Jordan or Fat Sham come on, but they have got some decent broadcasters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Read the first line, scrolled down, not reading that blood pressure inducing, violence enticing, rent-a-quote. I read as far as Simon Jordan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I honestly think Simon Jordan doesn’t understand football well, at-least not from a non-business point of view. He bought place because he suddenly had loss of money to spare (thanks to his parents funding his various business adventures) and didn’t know what to do with it. By his own admission he has an ego, and that needed to be filled. I think Palace were local to him, rather than him really being a fan. When he talks about football, he fails to get any points fans have. If anyone listens to him regularly, they’ll know that he hates Bruce with a passion because he jumped ship to Birmingham, and he’s never passed the opportunity to knock him. Now though he’s at us, he’s gone out of his way to praise him. Our fans calling him out has really upset him, and he’s going to stop at nothing to keep having a go at us. The thing is though, if it wasn’t for him having his views on football clubs being a wallet for millionaires and backing up Ashley, he could have had some peace and it wouldn’t have provided evidence that he’s got no interest in football aside from what you can make out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Has anyone known such a shit owner of a football club get so endlessly backed in the media and by the media? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Has anyone known such a shit owner of a football club get so endlessly backed in the media and by the media? He owns a big high street business in the UK, not like one of those foreign owners you see so much of nowadays. He’s one of our own. He’s also a horrific human being towards his staff. I think those are all valuable attributes in Britain 2019, at least to the PFM lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I'm feeling mad all over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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