Strawberry Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Rafa wanted to sign Danny Ings before he went to Southampton.?? Not his love poster Rondon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Rafa wanted to sign Danny Ings before he went to Southampton.?? Rondon and Ings would have still cost less than Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Rondon and Ings would have fucking ruined most PL defenses under Rafa tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Absolutely superb article by Rafa in the Athletic analysing Liverpool’s tactics and style of play – to think we let this man walkaway when he wanted to stay and replaced him with the current imbecile. Cheers Mike – fat wanker. Hurts every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Absolutely superb article by Rafa in the Athletic analysing Liverpool’s tactics and style of play – to think we let this man walkaway when he wanted to stay and replaced him with the current imbecile. Cheers Mike – fat wanker. It's disgraceful. It's disgraceful how the media and a large section of our fans reacted to the club LETTING GO of a world class manager for having ambition, and then replacing him with statistically one the worst managers in Premier League history. I don't care if it's your dead grans dying wish that you continue going to the matches for her. You're just as complicit as Ashley in destroying this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 The fact that so many clowns on Twitter are criticizing Rafa now and saying Bruce is doing a much better job just shows where we are. Depressing that one man has been able to divide and conquer the fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 so many of our defenders finding their scoring boots at the same time for a stretch of games there was actually kinda miraculous I mean, Bruce had absolutely no part in it yet he's given credit. A gameplan of "cling onto the game for dear life and try to nick something"(34% possession) has resulted in almost safety and the idiots of the world think it's genius rather than "winning a lottery 5 consecutive weeks" levels of improbable luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 The fact that so many clowns on Twitter are criticizing Rafa now and saying Bruce is doing a much better job just shows where we are. Depressing that one man has been able to divide and conquer the fanbase. Genuinely stuns me how many people on them supporter pages on fb etc say that... especially after we threw away a 2goal lead against oxford, people were praising him for "taking the cups seriously" and for being the the 1st man in 14years to guide us past the 4th round of the cups something "rafa didn't do" even talking to people this season who say hes doing alright, and that were "so and so many points better off than last season" etc its actually scary how moronic the majority of this clubs fan base are.... unbelievable how much I miss having rafa as our manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 "Money allows you to make mistakes and get away with it. If you buy, in theory, five good quality and expensive players and one or two aren’t right straight away, the other three can still make a big difference. When you have to wheel and deal, the chances are you’ll make more errors because you’re signing players from a different level." Something his previous employers could never grasp. Atsu Lejeune Manquillo Merino Murphy Joselu Kenedy Dubravka Slimani Schar Muto Rondon Fernandez Ki Bargain budget. How many real successes? 7? 3 outright failures maybe? Not bad given the budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 loved the little snippet about him from the crouch podcast; while other clubs were putting players in single rooms rafa stuck with the old sharing model and made sure to put players together by position hoping they'd sit at night talking about the game and how to improve etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Something his previous employers could never grasp. Atsu - played his part getting us up, but now surplus Lejeune - success Manquillo - success Merino - missed opportunity Murphy - huge fuck up Joselu - played his part, would have been useful this season Kenedy - erm, eventually shit Dubravka - success Slimani - fuck up Schar - success Muto - fuck up Rondon - success Fernandez - success Ki - solid squad player until bruce appeared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 How much was Murphy, £12m? Bad signing obviously but not that much money in real premier league context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Miss this guy so much Miss my old club so much too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Joselu, Muto and Murphy were the ones I was thinking as being outright failures; but the Hoss just seems like a really unfair stick to beat Rafa with because he had so little money to spend on a striker that summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 How much was Murphy, £12m? Bad signing obviously but not that much money in real premier league context. Peanuts, plus we also don't know how many other signings got rejected before he reached that one on the list - I doubt him or Muto were his top choice for the summer. They could never force signings on him, but they could also reject his ones until he finally provided one that suited their needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Murphy was a club signing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Joselu, Muto and Murphy were the ones I was thinking as being outright failures; but the Hoss just seems like a really unfair stick to beat Rafa with because he had so little money to spend on a striker that summer. Joselu was £5m For the money we paid he was alright. OK he was shit at football but...... £5m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I think on a caulkin pod on the athletic it was mentioned that Murphy was highly rated by Nickson and was really one Rafa got behind rather than lead himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On the flip side, though of those three. I feel like Joselu had nothing else to give while I'm not convinced we ever saw the best of Murphy. Atsu kept getting picked ahead of him even when he was playing well and Atsu was being his usual self. Felt like the lad couldn't catch a break and just get a fair run in the side because we couldn't afford to give him time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 My take: Atsu - served purpose in Championship, was good rotation player at times, was never meant to be starter. Rafa trusted him and he seemed to always perform in 2nd half of season Lejeune - when fit, outstanding. injuries out of his control. one of the classier CBs we've ever had. Manquillo - looked like he was a player reborn in the RWB role back end of last season. Could see him really growing into that role under Rafa. Merino - looked class. left too soon. Murphy - pure confidence player. but was a Nickson signing if ever. Joselu - extremely limited, never meant to be the main man, but served his purpose for Rafa. Kenedy - that loan spell was brilliant and had he been signed permanently that summer i think he would have carried that momentum into being class last season. Dubravka - one of our best keepers in a long long time Slimani - late loan, looked a different side when he came on versus Southampton and Arsenal. Shame it didn't work out for him. Schar - fantastic player and would have continued to be brilliant under Rafa Muto - believe he would have been a good player hthis Rondon - brilliant. should still be our #9 Fernandez - outstanding player, leader. Ki - served his purpose under Rafa but was never meant to be more than rotation Seemed like majority of hits and very few misses - Murphy, Muto glaring. Loans don't really count when they can be sent right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I don’t really feel the need to justify it anyway. We all know Rafa was working under very bad restrictions and he’s a million times the manager that Bruce is. Simple as that really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 It's so annoying that we didn’t build on the last half of last season when we were the 4th top scorers and the 7th best team in the league. To think these wankers decided to pay £40m (HA HA) for Joelinton rather than keep Rafa and Rondon. With the league this year, I think if those had of stayed – Perez more than likely would have too – and a few more decent additions then we’d be where Sheff Utd are at least. Utter bellends they are and the same applies to any NUFC fans who are slating Rafa whilst praising the utter foreskin that we currently have in our dug-out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Mike Ashley = Caesar Rafa = Maximus He couldn't handle Rafa becoming so powerful, popular and respected so fast. While also challenging the "leaders" to be more ambitious and make this club what it can and should become again. It's utter fucking depressing and shit. Shit cunts! Wonder what could have been... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirtleyMag Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 It's so annoying that we didn’t build on the last half of last season when we were the 4th top scorers and the 7th best team in the league. To think these w*****s decided to pay £40m (HA HA) for Joelinton rather than keep Rafa and Rondon is beyond me. With the league this year, I think if those had of stayed – Perez more than likely would have too – and a few more decent additions then we’d be where Sheff Utd are at least. Utter bellends they are and the same applies to any NUFC fans who are slating Rafa whilst praisng the utter foreskin that we currently have in our dug-out. If we were where Sheff Utd are now then the club would be bricking it because we might qualify for Europe and the fat man won’t want that. Our relatively comfortable position at the moment is exactly where Ashley wants us to be. The sad thing is many will see it as an acceptable season if we manage to get past West Brom (We’ll get knocked out in the quarters by the first good side we face) and go on to avoid relegation. The cycle then starts again next year to be repeated once more... I keep saying to myself that I can’t be bothered to watch/keep track of our games but still do every week, even though it’s pointless in the grand scheme of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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