Raconteur Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 @Neil I posted in the transfer rumours thread that we should raid Everton because you’re hamstrung FFP wise - someone contemptuously asked “Like who?” before the conversation moved on. Digne is an obvious one, Doucoure given our circumstances. I was wondering if you fear being raided in January, and who might be most likely to be pinched? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Raconteur said: @Neil I posted in the transfer rumours thread that we should raid Everton because you’re hamstrung FFP wise - someone contemptuously asked “Like who?” before the conversation moved on. Digne is an obvious one, Doucoure given our circumstances. I was wondering if you fear being raided in January, and who might be most likely to be pinched? Rafa, surely. I kid. I kid. (Or maybe I no kid.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1988 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Would love us to take Ben Godfrey from them but Holgate is probably more realistic, not that I rate him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, tom1988 said: Would love us to take Ben Godfrey from them but Holgate is probably more realistic, not that I rate him Godfrey has been turd this season. Like Aarons and Lewis the talent is there but all some way from being reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Neil said: You lot said the same last year and I emphasised how badly we'd been playing before you won 0-2. It will be a grim game I'm fairly sure of that part. We prove it time and time again, most recently v Leicester on Sunday, but if you are on a bad run (a team or a centre forward) just wheel out Newcastle and we'll end that for you no problem. Don't think Kane had scored a league goal all season till he played us back in October! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Godfrey has been turd this season. Like Aarons and Lewis the talent is there but all some way from being reliable. COVID Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rich said: COVID Ah right, mad to think you could buy a Messi, covid hit and he becomes a Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Godfrey has been turd this season. Like Aarons and Lewis the talent is there but all some way from being reliable. They never play Godfrey in his proper position as a CB from what I've seen of Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, tom1988 said: Would love us to take Ben Godfrey from them but Holgate is probably more realistic, not that I rate him The cunt that stamped on Tomisayu’s face the other week? No thanks- thought he was shite and every time I’ve watched him he’s ran around headless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Godfrey is one of their best players, but he's been struggling with long COVID apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Wallsendmag said: We prove it time and time again, most recently v Leicester on Sunday, but if you are on a bad run (a team or a centre forward) just wheel out Newcastle and we'll end that for you no problem. Don't think Kane had scored a league goal all season till he played us back in October! Hasn’t scored since either I don’t think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 It depends on their injury/managerial situation at the time, but at present I'd fancy us to get something from Everton. They're deep in the shit, on and off the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Hasn’t scored since either I don’t think Haha aye that'll be right! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It depends on their injury/managerial situation at the time, but at present I'd fancy us to get something from Everton. They're deep in the shit, on and off the pitch. Wouldn’t fancy us against Darlington based on Sunday. Need a massive improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Almost want him to be sacked for his own benefit, and to see what a clusterf**k Rooney would make of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: It depends on their injury/managerial situation at the time, but at present I'd fancy us to get something from Everton. They're deep in the shit, on and off the pitch. Trouble with that is Rafa knows all of our weaknesses. He knows all about our proneness for individual errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Trouble with that is Rafa knows all of our weaknesses. He knows all about our proneness for individual errors. Not anymore he doesn't....we've been Bruced and got a whole load more he hasn't got a clue about. Could be advantageous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Not anymore he doesn't....we've been Bruced and got a whole load more he hasn't got a clue about. Could be advantageous Didn't Bruce surprise these with his lack of a discernible plan to be countered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Didn't Bruce surprise these with his lack of a discernible plan to be countered? Exactly, you cant plan against a team that has no plan, obvious direction or collective motivation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Exactly, you cant plan against a team that has no plan, obvious direction or collective motivation But we now have a plan, involving the same players Rafa knows so well. They were never Bruced, he couldn't inspire a dog to piss on a lamppost. They've been de-Rafad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: But we now have a plan, involving the same players Rafa knows so well. They were never Bruced, he couldn't inspire a dog to piss on a lamppost. They've been de-Rafad I'd say a fair few of them have been fully Bruced... Lacelles....just short on an international call up pre-Bruce, and now doesn't look like he knows how to football at all Willock....looked a good player immediately from Arsenal, now looks like a total waste of space Clarke....never brilliant, but always a 7/10 player for Rafa, now a complete liability Ritchie...again never brilliant but with constant direction from Rafa reasonably useful....Now looks like a right winger playing as a left back Hayden....a semi competent defensive midfielder, now spends more time on the ground complaining than trying to play Longstaff 1....touted for a £50m move and cant even get ahead of Shelvey now Longstaff 2....Arguably better than Longstaff 1, but punted up to Aberdeen where he can't even get in their team now. Rafa had this lot (bar Willock) playing as a coherent effective team. 6 months of Bruceball and not one of them currently deserves to be starting a premier league game Edited December 15, 2021 by gjohnson accuracy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, gjohnson said: I'd say a fair few of them have been fully Bruced... Lacelles....just short on an international call up pre-Bruce, and now doesn't look like he knows how to football at all Willock....looked a good player immediately from Arsenal, now looks like a total waste of space Clarke....never brilliant, but always a 7/10 player for Rafa, now a complete liability Ritchie...again never brilliant but with constant direction from Rafa reasonably useful....Now looks like a right winger playing as a left back Hayden....a semi competent defensive midfielder, now spends more time on the ground complaining than trying to play Longstaff 1....touted for a £50m move and cant even get ahead of Shelvey now Longstaff 2....Arguably better than Longstaff 1, but punted up to Aberdeen where he can't even get in their team now. Rafa had this lot (bar Willock) playing as a coherent effective team. 6 months of Bruceball and not one of them currently deserves to be starting a premier league game Bruce never made any attempt to play them as a coherent effective team. Therefore his influence is nil, in this respect. We're a squad of Championship players from which Rafa got a quite pleasant tune. Bruce came along and blew in the wrong fucking end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Rafa filled them with Belief, desire and commitment. Bruce came and pulled the plug out on his first day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: Not anymore he doesn't....we've been Bruced and got a whole load more he hasn't got a clue about. Could be advantageous Exactly. How do you prepare against a team that won't even know themselves what they are going to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Lascelles had the perfect set-up for a good while - and I'm not digging him out here. At its best, he had two technical players either side of him in Schar/Lejeuene. They would do the forays up field, the fancy stuff, and clean up anything that came short. All Lascelles had to do was sit next to them and let them know what was happening. If it came in high it was his ball to win. If he needed to chase he could do that. I don't know when Rafa had the genesis of the idea to play us in a back three, I'd love to know, but he basically built a back three that was impeccable balanced. If Schar/Lejeune made a balls up you could trust Jamal to step in and clean up. We also didn't leave much space in behind which is what all defenders prefer. It's why I can look like Beckenbaeur at five a side and Bobby Davro on a 11aside pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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