Toonjam88 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Deal is already done, clauses or no clauses, it’s all agreed and just taking time to process. It’s moved on to transfer targets, all of this talk is irrelevant. Is this just your feeling or something you know. I am hoping it's something you know. What do you think? ???? Not sure that's why I asked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Deal is already done, clauses or no clauses, it’s all agreed and just taking time to process. It’s moved on to transfer targets, all of this talk is irrelevant. Is this just your feeling or something you know. I am hoping it's something you know. What do you think? ???? Not sure that's why I asked Nobody on here knows anything from inside the deal. Nobody. HTT does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Deal is already done, clauses or no clauses, it’s all agreed and just taking time to process. It’s moved on to transfer targets, all of this talk is irrelevant. Is this just your feeling or something you know. I am hoping it's something you know. What do you think? ???? Not sure that's why I asked Nobody on here knows anything from inside the deal. Nobody. HTT does HTT stands for Hopeless Tittle Tattle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'm at ease with the fact that we'll not hear anything official until mid to late January. They are (IMO) clearly managing the transfer window situation to try and avoid other club's massively inflating prices just because we have new owners. I can’t really see this approach work, might just be me. I mean, everybody and their dog surely knows we’re in the process of being taken over? Going after the quality of player we need to ensure we stay up will surely show our hand anyway? Why would their prices be lower if it’s Charnley doing the negotiating rather than Staveley (or another newly appointed person)? If anything I wouldn’t trust Ashley & co to actually complete the deals we need based on their track record if it was effectively my club in anything but name. I understand not boasting about a massive “war chest” or wholesale changes just yet (if indeed the plan is to dramatically transform the way the club is run), but not so much how delaying the announcement would help us in the transfer market. My two pence is it’s not fully agreed (yet, hopefully). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It stands for 'Howay The Text' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I don't see how it's clear they're managing the transfer window. Our only seriously linked target is Kenedy on loan which is a rehash of the summer. If Kenedy comes in on loan as the first signing it's a clear signal it's still Ashley pinching the pennies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'm at ease with the fact that we'll not hear anything official until mid to late January. They are (IMO) clearly managing the transfer window situation to try and avoid other club's massively inflating prices just because we have new owners. I can’t really see this approach work, might just be me. I mean, everybody and their dog surely knows we’re in the process of being taken over? Going after the quality of player we need to ensure we stay up will surely show our hand anyway? Why would their prices be lower if it’s Charnley doing the negotiating rather than Staveley (or another newly appointed person)? If anything I wouldn’t trust Ashley & co to actually complete the deals we need based on their track record if it was effectively my club in anything but name. I understand not boasting about a massive “war chest” or wholesale changes just yet (if indeed the plan is to dramatically transform the way the club is run), but not so much how delaying the announcement would help us in the transfer market. My two pence is it’s not fully agreed (yet, hopefully). Masters of disguise Ant 'n' Dec could disguise Staveley as Charnley for the neotiations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I don't see how it's clear they're managing the transfer window. Our only seriously linked target is Kenedy on loan which is a rehash of the summer. If Kenedy comes in on loan as the first signing it's a clear signal it's still Ashley pinching the pennies. I don't get this either. If we go for ambitious targets it'll be pretty obvious anyway. Plus clubs won't do us great deals just because we're owned by a wallpaper merchant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'm at ease with the fact that we'll not hear anything official until mid to late January. They are (IMO) clearly managing the transfer window situation to try and avoid other club's massively inflating prices just because we have new owners. I can’t really see this approach work, might just be me. I mean, everybody and their dog surely knows we’re in the process of being taken over? Going after the quality of player we need to ensure we stay up will surely show our hand anyway? Why would their prices be lower if it’s Charnley doing the negotiating rather than Staveley (or another newly appointed person)? If anything I wouldn’t trust Ashley & co to actually complete the deals we need based on their track record if it was effectively my club in anything but name. I understand not boasting about a massive “war chest” or wholesale changes just yet (if indeed the plan is to dramatically transform the way the club is run), but not so much how delaying the announcement would help us in the transfer market. My two pence is it’s not fully agreed (yet, hopefully). I can't really argue with any of that mate. I've only formed that opinion because I cannot think of any other reason why there has been no announcement. I am of course assuming that the deal has been completed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It stands for 'Howay The Text' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It's clearly nonsense, if those are the investors they would not care about the valuation or any clauses. They would pay whatever is needed to get the deal done, it's loose change for them. Sheikh Hamdan bin Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum's dad was apparently interested in buying the club in 2008 but was put off by the £480m asking price. Even though they're vastly wealthy, they'll not be willing to just pay anything to get the deal done. Not indicating any of the above is true, but the Dubai royal family have clearly been looking to buy a premier league club for a while, and have reportedly been interested in us in the past. iirc he was put off by Ashley and his arsehole ways, don't think price was the issue. Another thing to add, the names on that list don't strike me as the kind of people that would share things, they'd want it all. Whoever sent that text just googled a few rich people from the middle east and cobbled them together without much thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I know fuck all other than that it’s done. No one knows the ins and outs or even who will be our owner. I have a bit of guesswork like the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'm at ease with the fact that we'll not hear anything official until mid to late January. They are (IMO) clearly managing the transfer window situation to try and avoid other club's massively inflating prices just because we have new owners. I can’t really see this approach work, might just be me. I mean, everybody and their dog surely knows we’re in the process of being taken over? Going after the quality of player we need to ensure we stay up will surely show our hand anyway? Why would their prices be lower if it’s Charnley doing the negotiating rather than Staveley (or another newly appointed person)? If anything I wouldn’t trust Ashley & co to actually complete the deals we need based on their track record if it was effectively my club in anything but name. I understand not boasting about a massive “war chest” or wholesale changes just yet (if indeed the plan is to dramatically transform the way the club is run), but not so much how delaying the announcement would help us in the transfer market. My two pence is it’s not fully agreed (yet, hopefully). I can't really argue with any of that mate. I've only formed that opinion because I cannot think of any other reason why there has been no announcement. I am of course assuming that the deal has been completed. I said exactly the same the other day UB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I know f*** all other than that it’s done. No one knows the ins and outs or even who will be our owner. I have a bit of guesswork like the rest. You swear on your life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I think they'd like to get the Man City game out of the way first and foremost and it will be a soft announcement when it does become official, with a small press release and there will be only a modest budget for January. An argument for not announcing it until after the window could be to temper any wild expectations when it comes to the transfer window itself. I mean we are being linked with Luiz for example! Imagine it becomes official and there really is only 15m to spend or 20m, I think a large percentage of the numpty brigade on social media and in the actual media themselves would moan and bitch about that. I think that's why we are being linked with a few loanees because the budget will be modest. Maybe that's why Ashley will have to front the transfer window spending because no-one expects him to splash out anyway so if we do spend 15-20 people will think, fucking hell, well that's not too shabby. Unless we could realistically get top players to the club, I don't think any new owner would risk spending silly money in an inflated market on average players that may or may not be the difference. Rafa is astute enough and knowledgeable enough to be able to work with a few players in the right areas coming in to give us that boost and little extra. For me this season is all about staying up, Ashley or with a new owner. If they release 100m and we go down... I fully expect a modest budget, a few going out and maybe a 'keeper, number 10 and a CM coming. This is all guess work of course. I am, however, very very confident that we will finally be seeing an end to Ashley very very soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I know f*** all other than that it’s done. No one knows the ins and outs or even who will be our owner. I have a bit of guesswork like the rest. You swear on your life? I'd swear on yours mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I know f*** all other than that it’s done. No one knows the ins and outs or even who will be our owner. I have a bit of guesswork like the rest. You swear on your life? I'd swear on yours mate! Well, not worth much then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I've also heard it's done from my usual reliable source but also no details Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I know f*** all other than that it’s done. No one knows the ins and outs or even who will be our owner. I have a bit of guesswork like the rest. You swear on your life? I'd swear on yours mate! Well, not worth much then. Hey don't put yourself down, you're a good poster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Cheers mate! We all hope you're right and it's official soonish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I think they'd like to get the Man City game out of the way first and foremost and it will be a soft announcement when it does become official, with a small press release and there will be only a modest budget for January. An argument for not announcing it until after the window could be to temper any wild expectations when it comes to the transfer window itself. I mean we are being linked with Luiz for example! Imagine it becomes official and there really is only 15m to spend or 20m, I think a large percentage of the numpty brigade on social media and in the actual media themselves would moan and bitch about that. I think that's why we are being linked with a few loanees because the budget will be modest. Maybe that's why Ashley will have to front the transfer window spending because no-one expects him to splash out anyway so if we do spend 15-20 people will think, fucking hell, well that's not too shabby. Unless we could realistically get top players to the club, I don't think any new owner would risk spending silly money in an inflated market on average players that may or may not be the difference. Rafa is astute enough and knowledgeable enough to be able to work with a few players in the right areas coming in to give us that boost and little extra. For me this season is all about staying up, Ashley or with a new owner. If they release 100m and we go down... I fully expect a modest budget, a few going out and maybe a 'keeper, number 10 and a CM coming. This is all guess work of course. I am, however, very very confident that we will finally be seeing an end to Ashley very very soon. To be honest, this would be the most common sense way of dealing with the takeover. I'm with you on this one, 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Part of me is thinking that maybe it's done, but we wont make it official until after January. If it's announced prior to January and clubs get wind of an obvious cash injection, we could get stung in the January market. Could be keeping our cards close to our chest for the sake of spending in January. Wishful thinking maybe like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Part of me is thinking that maybe it's done, but we wont make it official until after January. If it's announced prior to January and clubs get wind of an obvious cash injection, we could get stung in the January market. Could be keeping our cards close to our chest for the sake of spending in January. Wishful thinking maybe like. That's what I'm thinking, keep it low key, get some names in on loan or whatever then when they are sown up or close to announce the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Rafa knows this and he's just playing it out really well saying we need players in but he doesn't know the budget and so on. He's doing it so clubs don't drive up the already inflated prices. He'll just need a few players to keep the team going well. But he needs his top targets delivered, not his 3rd of 4th choices. He didn't back Ashley in his press conference but he didn't paint him any worse either all because he probably knows the takeover is done and this time, he'll get the players he needs unlike in the summer. He'll splash the cash in the summer no doubt with bigger name signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Awful part of me fears we'll never hear anything of it again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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