polkaDot Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 He's been given 3 separate offers to negotiate with and done fuck all with any of them. For those thinking all it needs is for AS to offer 50 mil more are missing the point. All Ashely needed to do was take the 350 million offer and remove the Championship clause from the final re-payment and negotiate the relegation clause (if this was done back in November we would no doubt have the players in Rafa needed by now). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Can't believe some of the reports saying that Amanda/PCP did not have the money to buy the club. I thought you had to show that funds were in place before due diligence began. I agree with earlier views i.e Ashley is not bothered about selling it because it supports his Sports Direct but he would accept a crazy (high) offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I said a few years ago on here that we should brick his wife and my stance hasn't changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I feel proper sorry for my best mate like. He works with this German lad who reckons that Staveley is lying, he can't believe that my mate believes her over Ashley. When my mate mentioned that Ashley has been lying for 10 years and was proven in court to have deliberately lied to the Newcastle fans and the manager, his response was 'all businessmen lie' Can you imagine having to deal with that level of contradictory, deliberately obtuse shite? His argument is essentially Him: Staveley the business person is a liar! Lying is bad! My mate: Ashley lies all the time and it's been proven. Him: Yeah, but all business people lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I feel proper sorry for my best mate like. He works with this German lad who reckons that Staveley is lying, he can't believe that my mate believes her over Ashley. When my mate mentioned that Ashley has been lying for 10 years and was proven in court to have deliberately lied to the Newcastle fans and the manager, his response was 'all businessmen lie' Can you imagine having to deal with that level of contradictory, deliberately obtuse s****? His argument is essentially Him: Staveley the business person is a liar! Lying is bad! My mate: Ashley lies all the time and it's been proven. Him: Yeah, but all business people lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It's Plato's allegory of the cave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I feel proper sorry for my best mate like. He works with this German lad who reckons that Staveley is lying, he can't believe that my mate believes her over Ashley. When my mate mentioned that Ashley has been lying for 10 years and was proven in court to have deliberately lied to the Newcastle fans and the manager, his response was 'all businessmen lie' Can you imagine having to deal with that level of contradictory, deliberately obtuse s****? His argument is essentially Him: Staveley the business person is a liar! Lying is bad! My mate: Ashley lies all the time and it's been proven. Him: Yeah, but all business people lie. It’s like you’ve never seen Ready to Groom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure. I'm worried that after so long, it's gone public like this. It's like a last desperate attempt to move things along. I now think Ashley has no intention to sell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Any snipers out there? https://mobile.twitter.com/tfMichael1892/status/954292323881574400 Ashley's big fat head is a sniper's dream* tbf * © Bob Mortimer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Its concerning, if not surprising that theres seem sto have been no negotiation from Ashleys side... it appears to have been a case of 'if its not what he wants, he'll just ignore it'. However, I still think/hope that if we get some more points on the board, and the threat of relegation lessens, then she may come back with another higher or revised offer, removing the relegation clauses. However, I'm certain Ashley wont accept anything less, or with clauses in place, unless/until we go down again, and the value of his asset takes a hit again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure. I'm worried that after so long, it's gone public like this. It's like a last desperate attempt to move things along. I now think Ashley has no intention to sell If Ashley had no intention to sell then it would have been better for him to stay quiet and keep it going, especially while the window is open. He wants to sell, at his price, PCP need to up their bid.... Really nothing has changed apart from its all out in the open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Wonder if the £150m offer (200m-£50 for relegation clause) would still be on the table if we were relegated and whether that would be acceptable to him. Just musing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Its concerning, if not surprising that theres seem sto have been no negotiation from Ashleys side... it appears to have been a case of 'if its not what he wants, he'll just ignore it'. I don't think it's true that there has been no negation by him. He's just done it in his knuckle headed way: PCP - Offer 1 Submitted Ashley - Nope. Don't want clauses. PCP - Offer 2 Submitted Ashley - Nope. Still don't want clauses. PCP - Offer 3 Submitted Ashley - No direct response, maybe money is now too low. PCP - Fine offer is still on table Ashley - Make up story that two other bids are an table at 350m PCP - Ok good luck, our offer is still on table when if that doesn't work out (chuckle) Ashley - Concerned that public opinion is too far towards PCL - Publicly try to make themselves look like good guys - This at least adds doubt in peoples minds PCP - Try to keep public opinion on their side with their side of negations by releasing their statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Horrible horrible fat greedy cunt! Hope he dies from nettle stings to his fat curry burnt arsehole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure. I'm worried that after so long, it's gone public like this. It's like a last desperate attempt to move things along. I now think Ashley has no intention to sell If Ashley had no intention to sell then it would have been better for him to stay quiet and keep it going, especially while the window is open. He wants to sell, at his price, PCP need to up their bid.... Really nothing has changed apart from its all out in the open. I tend to agree that he does really want to sell. I think this weeks temper tantrum was two things. 1.He's p*ssed off that he now needs to run the club in the transfer window. He thought his "there are two other bids" lie would make PCP up their bid. And he'd be out of here. It's no coincidence that the "three signings" and "PCP are time wasters" come out at same time. 2.He needs to keep some sort of public opinion on his side. Protests will increase the chance of us losing Rafa and us going down. He needs us to stay up if he want's anything close to £350m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 stop saying PCL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 stop saying PCL oops. Brain freeze. Corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 stop saying PCL oops. Brain freeze. Corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 stop saying PCL Please use capitals and full stops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 stop saying PCL Please use capitals and full stops. ah, no fuck that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 stop saying PCL Please use capitals and full stops. ah, no f*** that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 What seems to be missing in the timelines is the December restaurant meeting. The third bid was in and it seems that the curry discussion led towards a possible compromise and chance of a deal. I think we can assume MA thought another bid was coming and when nothing arrived he's spat out his dummy. He didn't want the relegation clauses and didn't want to take the risk of relegation; now he is faced with the latter. In true MA style this may involve three loan signings and lets trust Rafa but it is a risk he is having to now take. Did PCP string him along here to force him into a January decision he didn't want to make? Now that he is taking on the risk of relegation I don't think anything will happen until it is clear which league we are in next year. By then the new TV deal will be known and the impact of the HRMC investigation may be clearer. If we stay up he will want his £350m but that might be easier for PCP to pay knowing we have another year of TV money and a summer to spend and rebuild. I do think he wants out and there is only one buyer in town at present so this will continue to run imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 As if we needed the extra pressure of staying up to get this takeover done, on top of a squad already shorn of quality. Thanks MA you absolute prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/19/amanda-staveley-told-pay-300m-without-clauses-persuade-newcastle/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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