loki679 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Dunno what that's for. £250m for one of the best supported PL clubs with a 52k seater stadium, massive potential and TV deals rolling in isn't a great price. Pretty much everyone in this thread so far agreed that wouldn't get it done so wind your neck in Doc Hollywood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 is it a catch-22 that we're in? i.e. we won't be bought unless we avoid relegation/ but if we avoid relegation MA won't sell? this thoroughly confuses me anyway, i still have hope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Bet Ashley is gutted this didn't come out straight after the transfer deadline the smokescreen fabricating c***. He released it that's how f***ing thick he is. PCP are to blame. Ashley is saving the day allowing Rafa to sell some players and loaning a keeper from Sunday league in Botswana mackems beat us to the keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I just can't get how unprofessional NUFC have been throughout the whole process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I thought the offer was £300 mil and what caused it all to collapse was the sticking point of the relegation reduction in fee's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Insane how NUFC is only worth 2 Coutinhos but hey ho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ?? If you look at the sky subscribers Ashley has his value more than right. Viewers at the match are one of the highest in the league, away fans also, check. Sky subscribers also up there as the best if not the best. Every angle covered. He has run us as a Sports Direct subsidiary like he has with every other company he has done the same thing to when taking over. He does just enough and I wonder how many Rafa's/Managers in his business he has done the same thing to when stepping over them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 https://twitter.com/bigchrisholt/status/954025580839817217 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Guessing that is related to outsourcing stuff at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The Club valuation is not helped by the crazy player prices. Not saying we would sell them but I wonder how much Lascelles,Merino, Murphy and Atsu would be worth in the summer or the year after if they progress. Surely the longer the deal takes the value can only go up. Even the crapper players value could have gone up for the first time ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I just can't get how unprofessional NUFC have been throughout the whole process. Surely you can? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It's the most straightforward thing about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well if Ashley wants £350 mill think we can safely say this will never be happening,no one is paying close to that Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ?? If you look at the sky subscribers Ashley has his value more than right. Viewers at the match are one of the highest in the league, away fans also, check. Sky subscribers also up there as the best if not the best. Every angle covered. He has run us as a Sports Direct subsidiary like he has with every other company he has done the same thing to when taking over. He does just enough and I wonder how many Rafa's/Managers in his business he has done the same thing to when stepping over them? Yeah don't disagree with the point about the TV money and it's value to Sports Direct. But it has no value to Newcastle united or the Value of club, now if the club received the correct value in sponsorship for hoarding space (value at upto £40m per season)then that would add to the value of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Amanda Staveley: the unusual case of Newcastle United’s would-be-owner https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case?CMP=share_btn_tw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Amanda Staveley: the unusual case of Newcastle United’s would-be-owner https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case?CMP=share_btn_tw Eurgh, here comes all the huff painting her in a bad light etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I think this goes to show that he’ll never sell, because nobody wants to overpay for us. May as well go watch Gateshead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I had a feeling a couple of weeks ago that this deal had died, but in hindsight I am kind of glad it wasn't sold to this set of bidders. I don't know why, I just had a feeling of deep disappointment when I saw who it was (based on nothing but gut feelings and nothing else). Ah well, I guess it just means we missed out here so we could finally find our perfect owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Amanda Staveley: the unusual case of Newcastle United’s would-be-owner https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case?CMP=share_btn_tw Eurgh, here comes all the huff painting her in a bad light etc. That article is a bullshit, Ashley puff piece. First of all, why didn't they write that a month or two ago? Secondly: It is not clear why Ashley would be expected to accept less even than the £263m he has spent on Newcastle, which he has made financially stable, in a vastly more lucrative Premier League than when he took over in 2007. I don't think anyone is expecting him to and I'm not sure anyone is annoyed specifically because he won't accept £250m. However, the club he bought was firmly established in the PL, only a few years removed from the CL, hadn't been relegated since the start of the PL, and was one of the wealthiest clubs in the world before the PL's insane TV deals made that list mostly meaningless. Those TV deals are literally the only reason the club isn't worth a fraction of what he paid for it and he is doing nothing to ensure we continue to benefit from those deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Lets jut face it - he's not selling EVER !!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I think this goes to show that he’ll never sell, because nobody wants to overpay for us. Imagine standing outside the ground 19 weeks out of the year and having approx 52000 people hand you approx £40 each ( low estimate ) would you move from that spot ?? If the crowds ever fall to 25000 and we drop a couple of leagues - thats the only time he'll fuck off . Nothing else will move him . No need for any protests just stop going and pray that in the short term we get relegated as many times as it takes to get rid of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Imagine standing outside the ground 19 weeks out of the year and having approx 52000 people hand you approx £40 each ( low estimate ) would you move from that spot ?? If the crowds ever fall to 25000 and we drop a couple of leagues - thats the only time he'll f*** off . Nothing else will move him . No need for any protests just stop going and pray that in the short term we get relegated as many times as it takes to get rid of him Not for the easily disgusted... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Amanda Staveley: the unusual case of Newcastle United’s would-be-owner https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/18/newcastle-united-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-unusual-case?CMP=share_btn_tw Eurgh, here comes all the huff painting her in a bad light etc. That article is a bullshit, Ashley puff piece. First of all, why didn't they write that a month or two ago? Secondly: It is not clear why Ashley would be expected to accept less even than the £263m he has spent on Newcastle, which he has made financially stable, in a vastly more lucrative Premier League than when he took over in 2007. I don't think anyone is expecting him to and I'm not sure anyone is annoyed specifically because he won't accept £250m. However, the club he bought was firmly established in the PL, only a few years removed from the CL, hadn't been relegated since the start of the PL, and was one of the wealthiest clubs in the world before the PL's insane TV deals made that list mostly meaningless. Those TV deals are literally the only reason the club isn't worth a fraction of what he paid for it and he is doing nothing to ensure we continue to benefit from those deals. I notice the article conveniently ignores the vast commercial benefit Sports Direct has received from its Premier League exposure thanks to the club, something it has paid precisely nothing for. Interesting definition of financial stability as well, with two relegations and staring at a third all as a direct result of his management choices and decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The entire article seems like something Bishop would have pitched and that specific line came directly from his email. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just what the fuck is going on man. Starting to feel like our club is just some pawn in an Ashley game that has very little to do with football. PR shit flying all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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