NEEJ Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 We're definitely getting shafted if we're in the Premier League next year like. No doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Until match going fans know what’s going on when they’re using it, it’ll always be gash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 We're definitely getting shafted if we're in the Premier League next year like. No doubt. This is true with or without VAR. We're makeweights in the PL now and are absolutely interchangeable with any other English club that isn't in the 'Big Six'. The FA would happily fuck us over to help out one of the 'Big clubs'. VAR doesn't change this, it just means that the FA will have to find away to allow their bent refs to favour the big clubs without being caught out by VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. Definitely didn’t ruin and probably improved the World Cup. The penalty scenario near the start was because of stupid players not var Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. It was 100% the best thing about the World Cup. Rules actually were enforced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. It was 100% the best thing about the World Cup. Rules actually were enforced. Except when they weren't Partly because of their own "Clear and Obvious Mistakes" rule, which wasn't enforced at all, but mostly the stoppage time rule was just completely ignored. Don't remember which game, but there was a game when there should have been about 8 minutes of stoppage time in the last 10 minutes alone, and barely none was given. Anyone thinking this will lead to fairer games with fewer big decisions being given to big teams are in for a rude awakening IMO, it's just another step towards the big teams not missing out on a late penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. How did it ruin the World Cup? There was a few bad decisions but much less than there would have been without it Can’t understand a Newcastle fan not wanting VAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. Because other genuine football fans think it improved the World Cup? It needs ironed out, but VAR at the World Cup was generally seen as a success and with good reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. You've had a shocker there, mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Also, VAR improved significantly as the WC progressed, so much so that we even forgot about it — it stopped getting in the way — in the semi finals and final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 VAR was a relative success at the world cup, still some shit decisions with it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Great way to disrupt the game if somebody is getting close to an equaliser against one of the big clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Great way to disrupt the game if somebody is getting close to an equaliser against one of the big clubs. In what way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I thought VAR might make the game fairer and that surely they couldn't just disregard the 'clear and obvious error' concept. But if the World Cup final was anything to go by, it'll just be another corrupt tool to manipulate games as you see fit if the little side is going against the script. I think the game is becoming increasingly corrupt and this only hands more power to influence results. In theory it should be good news but it ruined the world cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I genuinely can't wrap my head around how genuine football fans thinks this is good news. Did its absolute best to ruin what otherwise was a class World Cup IMO. It was 100% the best thing about the World Cup. Rules actually were enforced. but mostly the stoppage time rule was just completely ignored. Don't remember which game, but there was a game when there should have been about 8 minutes of stoppage time in the last 10 minutes alone, and barely none was given. That isn't VAR's fault, it's the referee's Teams deliberatley make subs in or just before stoppage time if they are winning as they know the refs never add all the time on. Refs not having a backbone isn't VAR's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Great way to disrupt the game if somebody is getting close to an equaliser against one of the big clubs. In what way? Seriously? Ok. Take our recent game against Man U, If we could have stopped the game for 5 mins at the end and thenonly added 3 stoppages, we would have come away with a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 That doesn't make any sense. You can't just randomly stop the game ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 That doesn't make any sense. You can't just randomly stop the game ffs. Exactly, it's only going to be used in game changing moments, a red card that maybe got missed, a goal that should have been allowed/ disallowed. If a team is try to get VAR to be used, it'll likely be for a red card offense, so it'll ultimately be a detriment of said team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 the big clubs will still get the big decisions, fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 You all seem to be assuming that I mean it can be exploited by the team winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 You all seem to be assuming that I mean it can be exploited by the team winning. It can't be exploited by either team, only the officials on the pitch in conjunction with those in front of the screen can bring the use of VARS. Not sure what your point is really in regard to delaying the game, for the gain of whatever team that might be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 the big clubs will still get the big decisions, fact End of? Simple as? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 the big clubs will still get the big decisions, fact End of? Simple as? He's just telling it like it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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