cosmic Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Changed the game when he came on and his wicked freekick/assist was much better any other set play in recent times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I thought it was a shot and thought at the time it had just been deflected in. Changed the game when he came on and his wicked freekick/assist was much better any other set play in recent times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 different to shelvey in that when he got the all he actually moved. shelvey had a tendancy to get the ball, stop, and look for a pass. shelvey still has lot to offer - 45 decent minutes doesnt make Ki a shoe-in but it puts pressure on shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Everyone in here was saying how immobile he was. Didn't seem too immobile yesterday like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 think he had a recent 90 minute run out for the national side. match-fitness must be improving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 He seems to execute short passing better than Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When Shelvey has the ball, it seems like everyone just stands around. When Ki has it, seems like some proper movement around him. Was described as neat and tidy, and he kept us ticking from the moment he came on. Even Diame looked better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When Shelvey has the ball, it seems like everyone just stands around. When Ki has it, seems like some proper movement around him. Was described as neat and tidy, and he kept us ticking from the moment he came on. Even Diame looked better. Ki himself offers more movement, I saw at least on occasion where he did a give and go looking for the return ball, something I don't recall seeing much from Shelvey. Jonjo prefers taking the ball from deep and hitting the long passes at his own leisure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When Shelvey has the ball, it seems like everyone just stands around. When Ki has it, seems like some proper movement around him. Was described as neat and tidy, and he kept us ticking from the moment he came on. Even Diame looked better. Ki himself offers more movement, I saw at least on occasion where he did a give and go looking for the return ball, something I don't recall seeing much from Shelvey. Jonjo prefers taking the ball from deep and hitting the long passes at his own leisure. Agree with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When Shelvey has the ball, it seems like everyone just stands around. When Ki has it, seems like some proper movement around him. Was described as neat and tidy, and he kept us ticking from the moment he came on. Even Diame looked better. Shelvey generally isn't that interested in keeping the ball whereas Ki is all about pass and move. Disappointing Ki is so slow as it looks like they won't really be able to play together in a 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When Shelvey has the ball, it seems like everyone just stands around. When Ki has it, seems like some proper movement around him. Was described as neat and tidy, and he kept us ticking from the moment he came on. Even Diame looked better. Shelvey generally isn't that interested in keeping the ball whereas Ki is all about pass and move. Disappointing Ki is so slow as it looks like they won't really be able to play together in a 2 I'm just pleased that Ki looks like he can at least offer us some midfield cover. From his earlier games it looked doubtful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It was obvious if you saw the whole game, but the heatmap on whoscored shows him further up the pitch than Shelvey had been. There might have been a shift elsewhere to cover it, but I didn't notice one from the tv pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Agree with the Shelvey / Ki takes here. One thing to add - the players know each others game. With Ki the lads know he wants to play it short and move so you play accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Changed the game, got on the ball, played it around and was more mobile and positive getting forward than Shelvey was. Shelvey needs to do some of that rather than meander around looking lost in deep positions hitting hopeful long balls all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Has to play IMO, even Shelvey doesn’t bring that level of control in possession. I know traditionally Rafa doesn’t rely on possession but I don’t think we have the ability to concede the ball so often. Or maybe just the comfidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When Swansea played them together it worked well, Ki got 8 goals and they finished top half. I don't think Diame is must start to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Diame's form was an anomaly, he's the wrong side of 30 and his legs are starting to go. I wasn't impressed with Ki at all prior to this game but if he is a better option he has to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Has Diame still tackled people a few times this season? If so, he'll stay in the team for that reason alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Has Diame still tackled people a few times this season? If so, he'll stay in the team for that reason alone. Sure there was a stat doing the rounds he’s top 5 in the league for tackling/dispossessions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Has Diame still tackled people a few times this season? If so, he'll stay in the team for that reason alone. Sure there was a stat doing the rounds he’s top 5 in the league for tackling/dispossessions. You do see him nicking the ball quite a lot, it gets overlooked because his passing isn't always accurate. Colback was a better passer but he was never going to close down midfielders. And his accurate passes were all two yards and sideways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When Swansea played them together it worked well, Ki got 8 goals and they finished top half. I don't think Diame is must start to be honest. IIRC, Shelvey was played in a more advanced role in a 3, with Ki & De Guzman? (or someone else) sitting behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Sounds like this guy looked like a good acquisition yesterday! Fingers crossed he builds upon this performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Looks very mobile for an immobile player. He's always on for a pass and can actually move it forward better then I thought he could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Looks very mobile for an immobile player. He's always on for a pass and can actually move it forward better then I thought he could. He might not be quick, but he actually passes and moves. Love me a midfielder who looks for one twos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Love the way he finds space in congested areas of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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