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He has his uses, but surely today is when Miley steps infront of him in the pecking order. As 6th choice CM, he's not the worst option to have. Not many clubs in the league will have a better option that far down the pecking order. 

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8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

With friends like these..

 

(N-O, not him :lol:)

 

 

 


I personally don’t like blaming the fans. Fact is he’s a terrible player. 
 

If he has mental issues going on then I obviously I hope he can get the help he needs and bounce back. But he’s incredibly luckily to be playing for NUFC at all and I don’t think we should feel guilty about criticising him. 

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Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:


I personally don’t like blaming the fans. Fact is he’s a terrible player. 
 

If he has mental issues going on then I obviously I hope he can get the help he needs and bounce back. But he’s incredibly luckily to be playing for NUFC at all and I don’t think we should feel guilty about criticising him. 

I agree! Kick him well he’s down! Howay lads, get a boot in.

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


I personally don’t like blaming the fans. Fact is he’s a terrible player. 
 

If he has mental issues going on then I obviously I hope he can get the help he needs and bounce back. But he’s incredibly luckily to be playing for NUFC at all and I don’t think we should feel guilty about criticising him. 

He's not like. We've seen him play well over periods, we've even seen our form drop when he was injured. He may not be what we need for where we are going but the grief he's getting (and yes he was poor today) is childish.

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Very disappointing today. Arguably presence aside anybody could have turned that showing in. Seems so sluggish, not even just pace-wise, not thinking sharply even for on an off day. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


I personally don’t like blaming the fans. Fact is he’s a terrible player. 
 

If he has mental issues going on then I obviously I hope he can get the help he needs and bounce back. But he’s incredibly luckily to be playing for NUFC at all and I don’t think we should feel guilty about criticising him. 

It's just always, always fickle and clownishly over the top to the point that I don't think it should be taken seriously. :lol:

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1 hour ago, Theregulars said:

Just looked like he didn’t want to be there 

 

 

Really? If anything I think he dreads the thought of not being here. Just not his sort of game where he's not going to get space, then his close control comes under more pressure.

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20 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Really? If anything I think he dreads the thought of not being here. Just not his sort of game where he's not going to get space, then his close control comes under more pressure.

Yeh just thought he looked a bit down on himself and not really up for it. Had a poor game which didn’t help, albeit better second half, but didn’t seem to have much zip or strength about him. Maybe he was just cold 

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He would be decent enough in a team that surrenders possession and wants to sit in. Like a 30-40% a game sort of team. He’s always been quality off the ball with his defensive work. 
 

I can see why Everton were linked when Dyche was there. 
 

For where we want to be. I don’t even want him here as 5th choice or whatever he is now. His limitations were massively exposed against a League Two side. He doesn’t really fir anywhere in our 3 since the change and Tonali going deeper. 

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37 minutes ago, madras said:

He's not like. We've seen him play well over periods, we've even seen our form drop when he was injured. He may not be what we need for where we are going but the grief he's getting (and yes he was poor today) is childish.


Personally the grief I give him is just an assessment of what I see when I watch him play. Which is awful. I don’t see what’s childish about it. 

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