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His biggest weakness is his mental strength, you can see it in his body language, he's got imposter syndrome.

 

He does all the easily teachable parts of the game really well, it's the bits where you need real technical quality which lets him down.

 

When he has a run of games, he's a much better player but I really hope he never has that run of games because the team will suffer, which is a bit of a problem for him.

 

Provided he's 5th/6th choice, I'm ok with him being here but will he be OK with that? And if he is, isn't that the problem entirely?

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18 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


He’s not perfectly capable, he’s pretty low quality. But I agree with the rest. If it was up to me I would probably sell, but I understand the argument for keeping him. 
 

I would ideally like someone really experienced if Trippier leaves, like Wolves did with Moutinho. But I’m guessing we won’t be thinking like that. 

 

The perfectly capable squad player would work without PSR. Then we could keep players like Longstaff around and give them games now and then where we felt they could contribute to a result.

 

The issue is, we don't have money to spend on players who will improve us. If you got £15m for Longstaff you could spend that on a young player with a much higher ceiling, whose value would appreciate.

 

That is where you have to weigh up the pros and cons of giving out new contracts to players whose value decreases every year.

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1 minute ago, STM said:

His biggest weakness is his mental strength, you can see it in his body language, he's got imposter syndrome.

 

He does all the easily teachable parts of the game really well, it's the bits where you need real technical quality which lets him down.

 

When he has a run of games, he's a much better player but I really hope he never has that run of games because the team will suffer, which is a bit of a problem for him.

 

Provided he's 5th/6th choice, I'm ok with him being here but will he be OK with that? And if he is, isn't that the problem entirely?

 

I agree with this, he seems like he's not sure he belong there even though he's played and scored in the Champions League last year, just wants to try and do the basics and be safe rather than stamp his authority and show he's a high level player.

 

Its a bit strange though as i remember watching his first few games with us and he was outstanding, and at times he was a key player for the team, its definitely a mental issue rather than a physical or technical one.

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Just now, Newcastle Fan said:

 

I agree with this, he seems like he's not sure he belong there even though he's played and scored in the Champions League last year, just wants to try and do the basics and be safe rather than stamp his authority and show he's a high level player.

 

Its a bit strange though as i remember watching his first few games with us and he was outstanding, and at times he was a key player for the team, its definitely a mental issue rather than a physical or technical one.

 

Aye, the kid that broke through had more authority than the one that's playing now.

 

Games like Saturday he should be the dominant player.

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1 minute ago, Newcastle Fan said:

 

I agree with this, he seems like he's not sure he belong there even though he's played and scored in the Champions League last year, just wants to try and do the basics and be safe rather than stamp his authority and show he's a high level player.

 

Its a bit strange though as i remember watching his first few games with us and he was outstanding, and at times he was a key player for the team, its definitely a mental issue rather than a physical or technical one.

 

 

Tbf, I think he was perfectly built for a Rafa Benitez side where you could sit back and then hit the spaces. It requires a lot less accuracy and invites less pressure when you are on the ball.

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36 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


He’s not perfectly capable, he’s pretty low quality. But I agree with the rest. If it was up to me I would probably sell, but I understand the argument for keeping him. 
 

I would ideally like someone really experienced if Trippier leaves, like Wolves did with Moutinho. But I’m guessing we won’t be thinking like that. 

Yeah, I know where you’re coming - but I think if he goes he would join another PL club.  That’s what I mean by it - I’d be surprised if a bottom six/seven side wouldn’t take him. 

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He's nowhere near as bad as he has played the last two games against pretty limited opposition.

 

And that's what makes the whole thing so frustrating. 

 

He gets too down on himself and plays with fear. This leads to him dwelling on the ball because he's indecisive and second guessing himself, or he just starts playing it very safe every time, which invites pressure when we're trying to advance the ball.

 

He also then stats mis-controlling the ball, scuffing shots and going to ground looking for free kicks under minimal pressure.

 

It's so painful to watch man. Like someone already mentioned, his body language just looks so bad.

 

He needs a serious shift in his mindset/mentality, to overcome these things for himself.

 

 

 

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I like Longstaff and have defended him on here previously because I think he has generally contributed a lot for us under Eddie. I also think he's clearly a very nice and humble guy.

 

I'd have been happy for him to stay and be 5th/6th choice midfielder, particularly given how short we are on club grown players for Europe. However I think I've realised that he's actually not a very suitable squad player. He has generally done best for us when he's getting lots of gametime in a position where he knows his role and can build up confidence and momentum.

 

When he's dropped into random games now and again in slightly different roles, particularly in scratch sides, I think it really shines a light on his weaknesses technically on the ball - and that is then exacerbated further by his self confidence issues. This makes him probably a pretty bad squad player, unfortunately for him and for us.

 

I think I've become more frustrated with him given we had to sacrifice another HG player for PSR instead, who I think will have a much better career and actually is a really safe pair of hands to drop into various positions when needed.

 

This summer is the last chance you have to get a decent fee, so if it's there, definitely time to take it.

 

 

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4 hours ago, ponsaelius said:

I like Longstaff and have defended him on here previously because I think he has generally contributed a lot for us under Eddie. I also think he's clearly a very nice and humble guy.

 

I'd have been happy for him to stay and be 5th/6th choice midfielder, particularly given how short we are on club grown players for Europe. However I think I've realised that he's actually not a very suitable squad player. He has generally done best for us when he's getting lots of gametime in a position where he knows his role and can build up confidence and momentum.

 

When he's dropped into random games now and again in slightly different roles, particularly in scratch sides, I think it really shines a light on his weaknesses technically on the ball - and that is then exacerbated further by his self confidence issues. This makes him probably a pretty bad squad player, unfortunately for him and for us.

 

I think I've become more frustrated with him given we had to sacrifice another HG player for PSR instead, who I think will have a much better career and actually is a really safe pair of hands to drop into various positions when needed.

 

This summer is the last chance you have to get a decent fee, so if it's there, definitely time to take it.

 

 

 

 

Perfectly said. It would have been ideal to move on Longie over Anderson. 

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6 hours ago, KaKa said:

He's nowhere near as bad as he has played the last two games against pretty limited opposition.

 

And that's what makes the whole thing so frustrating. 

 

He gets too down on himself and plays with fear. This leads to him dwelling on the ball because he's indecisive and second guessing himself, or he just starts playing it very safe every time, which invites pressure when we're trying to advance the ball.

 

He also then stats mis-controlling the ball, scuffing shots and going to ground looking for free kicks under minimal pressure.

 

It's so painful to watch man. Like someone already mentioned, his body language just looks so bad.

 

He needs a serious shift in his mindset/mentality, to overcome these things for himself.

 

 

 

 

 

I know what'll help. Let's all slaughter the cunt online. 

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3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

 

I know what'll help. Let's all slaughter the cunt online. 

 

Good luck policing everyone online to stop that happening.

 

No footballer escapes this, absolutely none. 

 

Becoming a footballer isn't a must and so going into it it's one of the unsavoury parts you have to deal with.

 

There are also on the flip side many benefits.

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think the criticism of his performance was OTT.

 

He's not a nice player to watch at all and is no good in possession dominant games or build up but we already knew that. Ultimately he did get an assist for 1 goal and played the killer pass which set up another :lol:. He also made the most tackles on the pitch.  

 

Him being here as 6th choice is fine, but if we get an offer of £10m or over in the summer we should take it. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Good luck policing everyone online to stop that happening.

 

No footballer escapes this, absolutely none. 

 

Becoming a footballer isn't a must and so going into it it's one of the unsavoury parts you have to deal with.

 

There are also on the flip side many benefits.

Aye, I get all that. What I find most hilarious, tho, is the ones who are most vociferous in their criticism of our "lesser" players are also the most precious when you suggest it's a tad OTT

Snowflakes 😉

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I’m not even the slightest bothered about losing Anderson. Apart from that he’s a local guy which is nice in its own way 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said:

Wish we'd sold him rather than Anderson last summer tbh. But guess we had no choice

You can't sell anyone who nobody wants to buy. There's legit reasons why no-one has come in for him

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4 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said:

Wish we'd sold him rather than Anderson last summer tbh. But guess we had no choice


Well yeah, but Anderson has quite a high ceiling and is younger whereas Sean is proven not to be good enough. 

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