Hanshithispantz Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It is possible they were completely fit and Rafa just never picked them like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It is possible they were completely fit and Rafa just never picked them like. Well that would be pretty mental then IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Still doesn't work for me as I said you have nearly a full house paying good money to see a manager accepting a defeat. you're just shouting into the void man, rafa's in his 3rd year here and he's seen and done more then every single other person in the fucking stadium so why are you still peddling this? haven't you been paying attention? given the constraints he's working under entertainment will be very far down his list of priorities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 So we should have started with an unfit Shelvey and Rondon, that’s your great plan? If they are unfit they shouldn't even be on the bench and Rondon certainly didn't seem unfit during the week. Eh players come back from injury and onto the bench all the time. Like literally all the time. I don’t know what condition Rondon and Shelvey are in, I’m just assuming there’s legitimate reasons they were on the bench and then never came on. There’s multiple reasons why that could have happened. So why are they on the bench if you're not fit you're not fit and why not bring them on then. If they're fit enough to be on the bench then their fit enough to play the majority of the game. I can understand not the full 90 but to not even bring them on is just totally inexcusable. They were probably on the bench in case we were down one goal with 10 or 15 minutes to go. When Arsenal went two up Rafa probably felt that the risk of bringing them on wasn't worth it when we probably wouldn't get back into the game anyway Still doesn't work for me as I said you have nearly a full house paying good money to see a manager accepting a defeat. What happens if he brought them on say with 15 mintues to go (I will still argue with anybody they should have started) and they get a goal and the match then changes. It might not but surely people paying good money deserve to see a team attempting to get something out of any game. Rafa isn't about entertaining the fans, he's about getting results and he probably thought that keeping those two players fresh and injury free was more beneficial than putting them on for 15 minutes when it probably wouldn't change anything and they might get injured again Don't agree sorry that team selection and lack of substitutes stinks you say it's about getting results well it certainly isn't working this season that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It is possible they were completely fit and Rafa just never picked them like. In the unlikely event that was the case, it's inconceivable he wouldn't bring them on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Fernandez looked canny. The rest all varied from barely average to utter shit. Rafa included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I am feeling flat as fuck here, wish i didn't care sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It is possible they were completely fit and Rafa just never picked them like. Well that would be pretty mental then IMO Oh aye deffinitely, I just mean that as a critisism that’s fair enough if it turns out they were fit. Rafa is known for picking teams based on their assesment in training so I don’t think it’s too outlandish tbh More so with Rondon than Shelvey like. I just don’t get the notion that if you’re fit enough for the bench then you're fit enough to start. I’ve never seen that argued in my entire life watching football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 So we should have started with an unfit Shelvey and Rondon, that’s your great plan? If they are unfit they shouldn't even be on the bench and Rondon certainly didn't seem unfit during the week. Eh players come back from injury and onto the bench all the time. Like literally all the time. I don’t know what condition Rondon and Shelvey are in, I’m just assuming there’s legitimate reasons they were on the bench and then never came on. There’s multiple reasons why that could have happened. So why are they on the bench if you're not fit you're not fit and why not bring them on then. If they're fit enough to be on the bench then their fit enough to play the majority of the game. I can understand not the full 90 but to not even bring them on is just totally inexcusable. They were probably on the bench in case we were down one goal with 10 or 15 minutes to go. When Arsenal went two up Rafa probably felt that the risk of bringing them on wasn't worth it when we probably wouldn't get back into the game anyway Still doesn't work for me as I said you have nearly a full house paying good money to see a manager accepting a defeat. What happens if he brought them on say with 15 mintues to go (I will still argue with anybody they should have started) and they get a goal and the match then changes. It might not but surely people paying good money deserve to see a team attempting to get something out of any game. Rafa isn't about entertaining the fans, he's about getting results and he probably thought that keeping those two players fresh and injury free was more beneficial than putting them on for 15 minutes when it probably wouldn't change anything and they might get injured again Don't agree sorry that team selection and lack of substitutes stinks you say it's about getting results well it certainly isn't working this season that's for sure. Well like its impossible for anyone here to know what condition Rondon and Shelvey were in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Fernandez looked canny. The rest all varied from barely average to utter shit. Rafa included. Who put in a great cross our that wingers couldn't and that's their fucking job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Fernandez looked canny. The rest all varied from barely average to utter shit. Rafa included. Thought Yedlin was decent too, Ritchie was decent first half but not much he could do second half with how much Arsenal dominated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 well who fucking knew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Shame about the free-kick for the goal but otherwise Fernandez definitely looked decent. Hopefully Schar can aclimatise to push for minutes. The competition will certainly be good for Jamaal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It is possible they were completely fit and Rafa just never picked them like. Well that would be pretty mental then IMO Oh aye deffinitely, I just mean that as a critisism that’s fair enough if it turns out they were fit. Rafa is known for picking teams based on their assesment in training so I don’t think it’s too outlandish tbh More so with Rondon than Shelvey like. I just don’t get the notion that if you’re fit enough for the bench then you're fit enough to start. I’ve never seen that argued in my entire life watching football. When it was mentioned that Rondon was returning from a late trip to South America, it was always on the cards he wouldn't be starting, fit or not. Rafa is very firm on things like that, you could imagine someone like Pardew would have pitched him straight in off the plane if he had to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 So we should have started with an unfit Shelvey and Rondon, that’s your great plan? If they are unfit they shouldn't even be on the bench and Rondon certainly didn't seem unfit during the week. Eh players come back from injury and onto the bench all the time. Like literally all the time. I don’t know what condition Rondon and Shelvey are in, I’m just assuming there’s legitimate reasons they were on the bench and then never came on. There’s multiple reasons why that could have happened. So why are they on the bench if you're not fit you're not fit and why not bring them on then. If they're fit enough to be on the bench then their fit enough to play the majority of the game. I can understand not the full 90 but to not even bring them on is just totally inexcusable. They were probably on the bench in case we were down one goal with 10 or 15 minutes to go. When Arsenal went two up Rafa probably felt that the risk of bringing them on wasn't worth it when we probably wouldn't get back into the game anyway Still doesn't work for me as I said you have nearly a full house paying good money to see a manager accepting a defeat. What happens if he brought them on say with 15 mintues to go (I will still argue with anybody they should have started) and they get a goal and the match then changes. It might not but surely people paying good money deserve to see a team attempting to get something out of any game. Rafa isn't about entertaining the fans, he's about getting results and he probably thought that keeping those two players fresh and injury free was more beneficial than putting them on for 15 minutes when it probably wouldn't change anything and they might get injured again Don't agree sorry that team selection and lack of substitutes stinks you say it's about getting results well it certainly isn't working this season that's for sure. Against who? Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, and Cardiff? I had us down to do better today, but howeh, we're a penalty miss away from where everyone expected really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Think it's Rafa's master plan. Rest players and take 0 points from say the top 7 teams and then win every single game against the other 12. 72 points would have got us 5th last season. Europa League here we come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 So we should have started with an unfit Shelvey and Rondon, that’s your great plan? If they are unfit they shouldn't even be on the bench and Rondon certainly didn't seem unfit during the week. Eh players come back from injury and onto the bench all the time. Like literally all the time. I don’t know what condition Rondon and Shelvey are in, I’m just assuming there’s legitimate reasons they were on the bench and then never came on. There’s multiple reasons why that could have happened. So why are they on the bench if you're not fit you're not fit and why not bring them on then. If they're fit enough to be on the bench then their fit enough to play the majority of the game. I can understand not the full 90 but to not even bring them on is just totally inexcusable. They were probably on the bench in case we were down one goal with 10 or 15 minutes to go. When Arsenal went two up Rafa probably felt that the risk of bringing them on wasn't worth it when we probably wouldn't get back into the game anyway Still doesn't work for me as I said you have nearly a full house paying good money to see a manager accepting a defeat. What happens if he brought them on say with 15 mintues to go (I will still argue with anybody they should have started) and they get a goal and the match then changes. It might not but surely people paying good money deserve to see a team attempting to get something out of any game. Rafa isn't about entertaining the fans, he's about getting results and he probably thought that keeping those two players fresh and injury free was more beneficial than putting them on for 15 minutes when it probably wouldn't change anything and they might get injured again Don't agree sorry that team selection and lack of substitutes stinks you say it's about getting results well it certainly isn't working this season that's for sure. you were the same insufferable knob complaining every chance you got last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Rafa is very firm on players coming back from international duty, but most other managers don't do it. This is where a squad comes into it, they can chance playing them knowing they have just as good on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Ignore ElWally. He's not a WUM or anything, he's just a bit thick. As QuakesMag says, he was whinging all of last year despite us finishing 10th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Rafa is very firm on players coming back from international duty, but most other managers don't do it. This is where a squad comes into it, they can chance playing them knowing they have just as good on the bench. He has a formula, which he sticks by because it's won him loads. We haven't the squad to win with 5/6 first teamers out but that's Ashleys fault, not Rafa's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Good that we've managed to keep the goal difference under control in these four games. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Rafa is very firm on players coming back from international duty, but most other managers don't do it. This is where a squad comes into it, they can chance playing them knowing they have just as good on the bench. He has a formula, which he sticks by because it's won him loads. We haven't the squad to win with 5/6 first teamers out but that's Ashleys fault, not Rafa's. Rafa getting out of jail again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 most sitting around us in the gallowgate screaming at dubravka to take a step to the left before the free kick was taken. just seemed too easy. hit that side and its a definite goal. really left too much space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 most sitting around us in the gallowgate screaming at dubravka to take a step to the left before the free kick was taken. just seemed too easy. hit that side and its a definite goal. really left too much space. Must be loads of international goalkeepers sitting in the Gallowgate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Good that we've managed to keep the goal difference under control in these four games. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I got a chomp out of Crumpy, sweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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