Miguel Almirón (now playing for Atlanta United)

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, wyn davies said:

Thought he was heading elsewhere, whilst £8.5 seems ok, bit more cream on top from elsewhere would be better.

Can’t blame the lad for not wanting to go to Saudi Arabia tbf

[GideonShandy]

27 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

Worst is obvs too much when Alan Smith et al wore the colours but you take away his terrific engine / effort and bloody hell, outside of that 3 months….

 

All right, but apart from his terrific engine, all-out effort, blazing speed and three months of genius - - - what has Miggy Almiron ever done for us?

[The Butcher]

If you take a away the purple patch we're looking at

 

175  games

15 goals

5 assists

 

 

Record signing at the time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[andycap]

He's a tryer I'll give him that and genuinely loved the club. so cannot say he was one of the worst players we've had mind. 

Duff thauvin spring to mind as players who didn't want to be here. 

[TRon]

24 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Can’t blame the lad for not wanting to go to Saudi Arabia tbf

 

Tbf we don't even know if the Saudis really wanted him, or if they were ever going to do us some special deal because of our links with PIF. Let's just pretend they were never in the picture and get whatever his real value is worth. If that's £8m we should take it happily and job well done.

[Stifler]

45 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I think him being ‘Bruced’, as others have mentioned, is definitely harsh.  Games under Rafa - 10, goals - 0, assists - 0

 

The lad is a grafter and a likeable character and everyone enjoyed that purple patch, but for the vast majority of his time here he hasn’t been worth near the fee we paid (a club record one).  If he was a £2m punt instead of a £20m one things might be viewed differently.

 

He’s the Warren Barton of NUFC attackers - canny lad, worked his bollocks off, quality not there, not worth the fee we paid. 

We got what we paid for.

£20m was at best an average fee for a Premier League player at the time.

He doesn’t have an end product, but if he did he would have cost more, or certainly have been sold on for much more once he was proven in the Premier League.

[Bunk Moreland]

3 hours ago, BeloEmre said:

 

 

Would be a good fee. Think that guy he's done the story with is one of the top MLS sources, so this hopefully has legs

[Vinny Green Balls]

30 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

If you take a away the purple patch we're looking at

 

175  games

15 goals

5 assists

 

 

Record signing at the time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

record signing in a grossly inflated market, and only because Ashley didn't spend shit. He hasn't been good, but your comments are near pure hyperbole.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

If we’ve stayed in touch since the summer it looks like he’s off. 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[JEToon]

Just choosing to patch a chunk of a players career would be a bit weird like. 

[Andy84]

3 hours ago, Nucasol said:

Take it.

Snap.hands.off

[Lush Vlad]

£8.5m would be a great deal. I was thinking he was going to be yet another player that we would basically have to give away and then have to pay 50-75% of his wages. 
 

The fact he’s not been playing and has looked so bad the last season or so. I didn’t think anyone would be interested for more than a nominal fee. 

[Ronson333]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Can’t blame the lad for not wanting to go to Saudi Arabia tbf

Depends on how much a good life in Paraguay costs, he’s in the cashing out phase and don’t blame him.

[Ameritoon]

I'm in Charlotte right now. Great city for a smiley Paraguayan 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, Ameritoon said:

I'm in Charlotte right now. 

Writing on here and shagging - that’s impressive  

[Menace]

I'd snap their hands off for that fee. All of a sudden Almiron + 20m for Bakayoko doesn't seem so bad.

[Holloway]

aye let's examine his stats after subtracting all the best bits, just to reinforce the opinion he hasn't been very good 

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Holloway said:

aye let's examine his stats after subtracting all the best bits, just to reinforce the opinion he hasn't been very good 

If you include his best bits (which is the fair assessment) he hasn’t been very good.

 

Excellent coaching and having two top players in peak form (Bruno and Trippier) working with him on the right is what it took to make him look like a good PL player for a few months.  

[Holloway]

4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

If you include his best bits (which is the fair assessment) he hasn’t been very good.

 

Excellent coaching and having two top players in peak form (Bruno and Trippier) working with him on the right is what it took to make him look like a good PL player for a few months.  

I don't disagree, it was an objection to leaving the purple patch aside nonsense.

What we glimpsed wasn't all down to the things you mentioned though, those finishes were pure talent and not many of our lot could have pulled them off. Hindsight tells us that it's buried very deeply,though.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Holloway said:

I don't disagree, it was an objection to leaving the purple patch aside nonsense.

What we glimpsed wasn't all down to the things you mentioned though, those finishes were pure talent and not many of our lot could have pulled them off. Hindsight tells us that it's buried very deeply,though.

Perhaps you’re right, though I do also think that some footballers can just have patches where everything they hit goes in.  Almiron was playing with a complete confidence for a short period of time.

 

I think Almiron’s greatest weakness is a lack of footballing intelligence; he might well be a genius off the pitch, but on it he’s one of the least intelligent attacking players I’ve ever seen in B&W (my time goes back to the late ‘80s, and I’m struggling to think of many first team regular attackers as lacking in that department as him.  Obertan would be one).  A proper ‘head down’ winger - which I think explains the pretty shocking ‘assist’ record.  Really good forwards don’t play with their eyes down on the ball in the way that Almiron does - which is why I raised Bruno and Trippier (who do have superb vision and intelligence and both can pick a pass), who could neuter Almiron’s headless chicken running and find him in space.  Once other teams sussed this, he returned to the mean.

[Holloway]

 

15 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Perhaps you’re right, though I do also think that some footballers can just have patches where everything they hit goes in.  Almiron was playing with a complete confidence for a short period of time.

 

I think Almiron’s greatest weakness is a lack of footballing intelligence; he might well be a genius off the pitch, but on it he’s one of the least intelligent attacking players I’ve ever seen in B&W (my time goes back to the late ‘80s, and I’m struggling to think of many first team regular attackers as lacking in that department as him.  Obertan would be one).  A proper ‘head down’ winger - which I think explains the pretty shocking ‘assist’ record.  Really good forwards don’t play with their eyes down on the ball in the way that Almiron does - which is why I raised Bruno and Trippier (who do have superb vision and intelligence and both can pick a pass), who could neuter Almiron’s headless chicken running and find him in space.  Once other teams sussed this, he returned to the mean.

Well he was regularly displaying his finishing ability at Atalanta ( quality of opposition duly noted), so he's no stranger to it. Perhaps it's purely down to confidence his barren spells, who knows. I kind of get what you're saying about the head down stuff, but i do think he makes some intelligent runs that ultimately don't produce much of note, similar to Murphy in many respects. Obertan is a good shout mind, fucking infuriating wasn't he.

It's very obvious his time is up here, but I'll remember him fondly.

[bobbydazzla]

He’s the best Mexican to play for us in my lifetime 

 

And anyone who disagrees best watch their letterbox

 

Adios Miggy, you have an incredible work ethic and a lovely smiley face but you were mostly frustrating 

 

Enjoy yourself in Charlotte 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[Yorkie]

Wouldn't describe Almiron as a headless chicken at all tbh. On the contrary, he's been an exemplary slave to Howe's system; in particular he was a critical cog in those immense pressing machines from 22/23 and the early part of last season.

 

Excluding the ones that are apparently inadmissible, his numbers have typically been poor. But he's more than contributed to our success under the current manager and helped to transform Rafa's last season too. Much of the Bruce years I've mercifully blanked out, but my recollection is that he helped out in those very lean years as well (when he wasn't at RWB or wherever that brain-dead prick shoved him).

 

I'm massively in favour of us selling him at this point because he's no longer that useful to us and we need the cash, but painting him as some waste of money based entirely on his lack of assists is incredibly disingenuous and just agenda-driven.

[The Butcher]

15 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Wouldn't describe Almiron as a headless chicken at all tbh. On the contrary, he's been an exemplary slave to Howe's system; in particular he was a critical cog in those immense pressing machines from 22/23 and the early part of last season.

 

Excluding the ones that are apparently inadmissible, his numbers have typically been poor. But he's more than contributed to our success under the current manager and helped to transform Rafa's last season too. Much of the Bruce years I've mercifully blanked out, but my recollection is that he helped out in those very lean years as well (when he wasn't at RWB or wherever that brain-dead prick shoved him).

 

I'm massively in favour of us selling him at this point because he's no longer that useful to us and we need the cash, but painting him as some waste of money based entirely on his lack of assists is incredibly disingenuous and just agenda-driven.

Who's done that?

[bobbydazzla]

Fun fact of the day:

 

Mike the Headless Chicken is the record holder for the longest surviving chicken without a head, living for 18 months after being beheaded in 1945