Guest covmag Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Awful from players and manager. How was it awful from the manager? He can't risk the two or three players who are absolutely vital to us surviving, and we started the game on the front foot. The players were absolutely appalling today. It's his job to win football matches....fucks sake he can be blamed you know it's not illegal The shite tactics and way we play and approach games is down to him The whole setup stinks from top to bottom (a fish rots from the head, as they say) Get rid of Rafa and who you gonna get to come in? Rafa 'might' keep us up - Pardew/Allardyce, etc won't. Can you honestly say big Sam would get any worse from this group of players??? Sam is used to getting a tune from shite....Rafa isnt Literally the first post I saw in this thread, so thanks for giving me the signal to have the night off from N-O. The whole forum's gone to the dogs. People are saying we were shit.....we were People are saying Rafas tactics were shit .....they were Do we have to say Rafa is king no matter what? Gone to the dogs for having a genuine opinion on the state of it all, I’ve always been behind Rafa but tfuck me tonight he got it wrong again, at home, again. Convince me that We and Rafa are fine, go on. Even if I agree with you, how does any of it relate in any way to the blatant and obviously stupid suggestion that Sam fucking Allardyce would do a better job? Edit: And having a genuine opinion on the state of it all isn't why the forum's gone to the dogs, it's because examples of utterly stupid posts like the one above that have become more and more common over the last couple of years. Then delete account and keep ya head up ya arse and keep the faith . Case in point. So you enjoyed tonight ? No. Does not enjoying it mean I think Sam Allrdyce 'wouldn't do a worse job'? No, because I'm not a complete retard. What’s FSA got to do with anything I’ve posted It's the post I was responding to by geordiedean? The post that you originally replied to? In no post do I ever think Rafa is worse than FSA , I love Rafa but he fucked up today and folk should be allowed an opinion on a match without the constant messiah white knighting of him. Piss poor again and he should not be beyond criticism. Are you doing this on purpose? I was responding to a geordiedean post that said Allardyce wouldn't do any worse than Rafa. YOU replied to it saying that Rafa's not beyond criticism. I then asked what any of that had to do with Allardyce and now you're saying you never mentioned him. I know you didn't, I can only assume that you didn't read what I was replying to when you originally posted. Just fucked off mate, no offence , sick of the bastard club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Some people can't see past their nose and will blame Rafa anytime we don't win. Reality check: we are a Championship quality team even at full strength. This is our level thanks to Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDamme Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Some people can't see past their nose and will blame Rafa anytime we don't win. Reality check: we are a Championship quality team even at full strength. This is our level thanks to Mike. We are in the PL , we finished 10th last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Gavilan, Fumaca, Cort, Bassedas, Bramble, Cordone, Viana, Carr, Butt. We’d also have missed Robert & Bellamy who were probably his two best signings had Zenden & Jeffers not turned us down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Gavilan, Fumaca, Cort, Bassedas, Bramble, Cordone, Viana, Carr, Butt. He got a tune out of them though didn’t he. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Gavilan, Fumaca, Cort, Bassedas, Bramble, Cordone, Viana, Carr, Butt. He got a tune out of them though didn’t he. The football in the 2000/1 season was crap. He dedicated a crap 0-0 draw against Arsenal to the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDamme Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Gavilan, Fumaca, Cort, Bassedas, Bramble, Cordone, Viana, Carr, Butt. We’d also have missed Robert & Bellamy who were probably his two best signings had Zenden & Jeffers not turned us down. You are making my point for me! How many good players did Robson make/buy? I will always remember the Solano and Hughes combo. Now Rafa is in "Maintenance" mode, if he had better then we would see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDamme Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Gavilan, Fumaca, Cort, Bassedas, Bramble, Cordone, Viana, Carr, Butt. He got a tune out of them though didn’t he. The football in the 2000/1 season was crap. He dedicated a crap 0-0 draw against Arsenal to the fans. Those players, with the exception of Viana were really cheap buys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Gavilan, Fumaca, Cort, Bassedas, Bramble, Cordone, Viana, Carr, Butt. He got a tune out of them though didn’t he. The football in the 2000/1 season was crap. He dedicated a crap 0-0 draw against Arsenal to the fans. Those players, with the exception of Viana were really cheap buys! Cart Cort cost £8m, was expensive at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I remember Keegan and Robson era, they had a 7/10, 6/10 hit rate on *worthy* players, never mind players that would excel. The problem we now have is the hit rate is reduced and buying/attractiveness power is less. Hence Joselu for our attacking, Rondon and Perez as alternatives (given 90 mins would they have been better?!) Robson really? He hit the jackpot in 2001 with Robert, Bellamy and to a lesser extent Distin, but there was a lot of s**** too. So that is 4 out of?! Gavilan, Fumaca, Cort, Bassedas, Bramble, Cordone, Viana, Carr, Butt. We’d also have missed Robert & Bellamy who were probably his two best signings had Zenden & Jeffers not turned us down. You are making my point for me! How many good players did Robson make/buy? I will always remember the Solano and Hughes combo. Now Rafa is in "Maintenance" mode, if he had better then we would see... He already had Given, Solano, Speed, Shearer & Dyer at his disposal though. Benítez didn’t have that luxury to afford a few bad buys like Robson did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Some people can't see past their nose and will blame Rafa anytime we don't win. Reality check: we are a Championship quality team even at full strength. This is our level thanks to Mike. We are in the PL , we finished 10th last year 10th as Rafa got the best out of what we had, every other team improved after that while we stood still and fell behind, including the Championship teams that came up. Had Rafa been allowed to strengthen and we were still hovering where we are now, I would have no issue with people blaming him. The fact is we fell behind by doing fuck all transfer wise in the summer, now we are seeing the effect of that. It'll be a fuckin achievement just to stay up the way we are. This thread is a fuckin shit storm by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 This place has gone to the dogs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 This place has gone to the dogs. Mirrors the club. Pages and pages of talking about something that's really not worth talking about in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 The 10th last season means nothing when every club around you spent shite loads improving. If Rafa had spent £70m last summer there's no way we wouldn't be inside the top 10 now imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 This place has gone to the dogs. Mirrors the club. Pages and pages of talking about something that's really not worth talking about in the slightest. Aye, my head hurts from reading the last couple of pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 How big was the crowd ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 36k? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Attendance: 36,440 In the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Mad cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It doesn’t really get you any kind of PL player. It does if your scouting is good enough Makes you wonder why anyone bothers to spend more than £12m on a player then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 As if 36k people went to this. The fuck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It doesn’t really get you any kind of PL player. It does if your scouting is good enough Makes you wonder why anyone bothers to spend more than £12m on a player then. There's loads of good players in the PL that cost less than £12m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It doesn’t really get you any kind of PL player. It does if your scouting is good enough Makes you wonder why anyone bothers to spend more than £12m on a player then. There's loads of good players in the PL that cost less than £12m Of course there is, but there'll be plenty who turn out to be duds as well. Also depends on what position you are talking about. It will be a lot easier to buy a decent full back for £12m than a forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 In the 4th round draw at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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