r0cafella Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I think the interest is genuine but Ashley has absolutely no incentive to sell. The revenue generated by NUFC is great he just needs to keep us in the Premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I think the interest is genuine but Ashley has absolutely no incentive to sell. The revenue generated by NUFC is great he just needs to keep us in the Premier league. Which is why the various protests and the like don't mean anything to Ashley or have any impact on Ashley's actions unless they impact the revenues of NUFC or the marketability of NUFC. Take a look at the few times Ashley appeared to do something in reaction to fan unrest - it was only when the fan action could impact the club's profits or impact the advertising value of the club to Sports Direct. Any action that doesn't achieve one or both of these things is a complete waste of time. For example, pre-game and post-game protests don't have any impact because they are not broadcast on TV - but in game walk-outs and large banners do have an impact because they're seen on international television alongside the Sports Direct advertising. Singing against Ashley has no impact because the television broadcast barely picks it up, but large scale protests outside of Sports Direct stores with news-media in tow does have an impact because it targets his primary business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 We should all remember this fact : He does not want to sell ... He makes too much money from it to want to sell and it's a great advertising vehicle for next to nothing. The club value will keep going up as long as in the league / bounce back and the fans will most likely put up with it all. He will sell eventually but wouldn't even trust him to put us in the hands of a decent owner He (Ashley) isn't really making any money from the club according to the accounts though. If the loans were high interest, or he was taking out large sums every year I'd get it. How long would it take SD to get a return of £350m from advertising? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I still dont understand. If everything was fake why did BZG say they are buying us in the first place? I believe they do want to buy us. What I don't trust is Fat Mike. Somehow, he is going to try and scupper the deal. Sounds like you do understand. Basically what the more sensible lot have thought all along. Genuine takeover attempt (not an MA/KB masterplan), fat mike to pull the rug at some point. Basically it. I still genuinely think there's a strong chance this has been engineered, I don't know the BZG or anyone from it, and I'd rather go with my gut when thinking about what MA and KB would be willing to do. I wholeheartedly agree that takeover rumor or not, the end result in terms of the financial outlay/investment in the club is the same regardless. However, this is Mike Ashley, a man seemingly hell-bent on deliberately misleading and downright antaognising the fan base. With cronies in Sky Sports to peddle whatever plan of the day he wants to peddle. I think he's had it in us for a long time, remember that letter he wrote to the fans about not being able to bring his family because he didn't feel safe at the ground? The guy is willing to bet huge sums on a whim in casinos, what's a hypothetical 5-10m kicker to a previously unknown figurehead Arabian investment company to him to further annoy us even more. It seems to be pretty much his mission in life to antagonise and do whatever he can to the club to 'get back' at the people of Newcastle. Would be ecstatic to be proved wrong, but 10+ years of experience of having takeover after takeover fail when he's 'trying' to sell the club has me pretty much entrenched in not believing a single word written about, let alone from the club. Until I see a press conference at SJP with someone saying they are the owners of the club, I won't believe in literally anything. So whilst I do consider myself sensible, I just have a different viewpoint based on my own values. I woudn't label people who disagree with your point of view as 'unsensible' by inference, forums are for debate and discourse FWIW, I think you're one of the more sensible posters on here. Fair enough, I'm under no illusions as to what fatty is capable of doing, however I really don't think MA/KB have enough clout to pay off BZG to release statements, imagine it somehow came out? What would happen to BZG? Just to string along a fan base for Mike Ashley? I just don't see it. To me they are genuine buyers, fatty is seeing what he can squeeze from them, if he can't get what he wants (which will be a massively over inflated price) he'll close the door. Think we're getting closer to that point now (murmurs of him moving goalposts etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 How long would it take SD to get a return of £350m from advertising? The most recent figure was that SD spent £12m in total on advertising and promotion for 2017, so I would say longer than Ashley has left on the planet. With SD supposedly now paying for the advertising (could of course be a total lie), will be interesting to see what appears under 'related party transactions' in the next set of accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 This explains Ashley and his motivations The only thing we can do is walk away and maintain a state of indifference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Around the same time the transfer window closes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Starting to believe it's all a smoke screen now tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 This happens every transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey jake Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 We’re going to kick off with fucking Joselu upfront again aren’t we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Ah NUFC 360, the go to for scoops relating to he club ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I've basically decided that if a takeover doesn't happen, I wont be following the club anymore, it's not my club, its Mike Ashley's club. Of course I will keep an eye on results but I wont be invested anymore and that's even if by some miracle they do keep Rafa. If a takeover happens, I will see you all then. Respect to you all, you are good people with your hearts in the right place and keep fighting the good fight. Laters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Ah NUFC 360, the go to for scoops relating to he club ? I know its been said before but you know all they do is report what other sources say, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Wow. So done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Let's just wait to see what happens over the next week, no way whatsoever would a journalist be in a position to know how long the takeover will be or not, that will be in the hands of lawyers. Love that quote we understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Ah NUFC 360, the go to for scoops relating to he club ? Ffs someone tell him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Ah NUFC 360, the go to for scoops relating to he club ? I think the brackets with Mhardysport is the clue mind. Get yourself another WhatsApp sent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 'We understand' They know nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFlat Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Ah NUFC 360, the go to for scoops relating to he club ? I realise that it's already been explained what they do. But, even so, as opposed to 'Odin from the Newcastle Online forum'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 'We understand' They know nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 So Rafa leaving and all the familiar sound bites about the fakeover starting to cone out. How fucking predictable. I can't put into words how much I wish that fat bastard would get struck by lightning. Totally done with the club until he's gone. How can people go back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 'We understand' They know nowt. Ffs man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 We should all remember this fact : He does not want to sell ... Then relegation and a few years in the championship is the answer. Once the PL cash tap is turned off he’ll fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Let's just wait to see what happens over the next week, no way whatsoever would a journalist be in a position to know how long the takeover will be or not, that will be in the hands of lawyers. Love that quote we understand This. The longer tis goes on, the more the speculation will grow. No point in any of it. Just wait and see what comes out in the wash. Obviously don't go investing in anything NUFC/SD related in the meantime/ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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