Kanj Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What if they build new training ground, renovate the stadium or expand it (being creative with it) build an academy, boost the Newcastle economy with investment into other areas that boost jobs? What if we win stuff and compete? Bring a top manager in? If that's all it takes to make people celebrate them in spite of all the horror and terror they are behind then I'm sure they will be very happy. It's a small price to pay for them. It of course won't help the children in Yemen who is dying due to the actions of Saudi Arabia, but fuck them, we're gonna win the Champions League. Interesting opinion. What is your opinion then? You seem to be in favour of a takeover. You really want to be associated with them? I have no idea how I feel. One scum owner to another. But you’d be bloody surprised what sovereign wealth funds are invested in - often times it’s some really good stuff all over the world. I wish the new owner of this club would be a great human being mind you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 This point has been discussed by more articulate people than me, but I think it's an important point: I think, to an extent, football fans should be allowed to be football fans. It's somewhat unfair that, due to associations with certain owners, all of a sudden fans need to adopt a position on human rights and various current affairs and, potentially, have their views of their sports club conflicted by matters that have nothing to do with football. Our case is a bit different because, regardless of all of Ashley's misdemeanours outside of football, his style works badly for the club. You can't say that about Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I could never ever justify supporting nufc if they were owned by Saudi's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 This point has been discussed by more articulate people than me, but I think it's an important point: I think, to an extent, football fans should be allowed to be football fans. It's somewhat unfair that, due to associations with certain owners, all of a sudden fans need to adopt a position on human rights and various current affairs and, potentially, have their views of their sports club conflicted by matters that have nothing to do with football. Our case is a bit different because, regardless of all of Ashley's misdemeanours outside of football, his style works badly for the club. You can't say that about Man City. I don’t disagree. However, if your conscious of it, it shouldn’t be a topic I avoided or exempt from criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Would love it if this game true as it would prove the people wrong that think getting relegated would get rid of Ashley and intact being pretty much assured of staying up would be better Fuckin hell. There are a million and one reasons to want Mike Ashley to sell, and the first one you think of is so you can say 'told you so'. Get a grip man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Would love it if this game true as it would prove the people wrong that think getting relegated would get rid of Ashley and intact being pretty much assured of staying up would be better Fuckin hell. There are a million and one reasons to want Mike Ashley to sell, and the first one you think of is so you can say 'told you so'. Get a grip man. That's tgarve for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What if they build new training ground, renovate the stadium or expand it (being creative with it) build an academy, boost the Newcastle economy with investment into other areas that boost jobs? What if we win stuff and compete? Bring a top manager in? If that's all it takes to make people celebrate them in spite of all the horror and terror they are behind then I'm sure they will be very happy. It's a small price to pay for them. It of course won't help the children in Yemen who is dying due to the actions of Saudi Arabia, but fuck them, we're gonna win the Champions League. Interesting opinion. What is your opinion then? You seem to be in favour of a takeover. You really want to be associated with them? I am all in favour of an Arab takeover, they are the only ones likely to transform the club into a trophy winning one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I care little for the politics, I want Ashley gone and a competitive club back so I can enjoy my football again and actually feel some emotion towards our results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What if they build new training ground, renovate the stadium or expand it (being creative with it) build an academy, boost the Newcastle economy with investment into other areas that boost jobs? What if we win stuff and compete? Bring a top manager in? That shouldn't matter as long as they're literally murdering innocent people IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Would love it if this game true as it would prove the people wrong that think getting relegated would get rid of Ashley and intact being pretty much assured of staying up would be better You want it to be true for that reason? Fucking hell, thats actually pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What if they build new training ground, renovate the stadium or expand it (being creative with it) build an academy, boost the Newcastle economy with investment into other areas that boost jobs? What if we win stuff and compete? Bring a top manager in? If that's all it takes to make people celebrate them in spite of all the horror and terror they are behind then I'm sure they will be very happy. It's a small price to pay for them. It of course won't help the children in Yemen who is dying due to the actions of Saudi Arabia, but f*** them, we're gonna win the Champions League. Interesting opinion. Is it correct to tar a whole nation of people with the actions of the nation Also is it making any difference if they fund Newcastle If anything would probably lead to more talk and action against the regime The bloke being mentioned is literally second in command to the bloke running the regime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Is it the same/different cognitive dissonance required/displayed by those who think they aren’t supporting Ashley by attending? Genuine question? I know the difference but there’s definitely some involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I could never ever justify supporting nufc if they were owned by Saudi's. This is where I'm at I feel. I definitely can't justify supporting nufc owned by Ashley either though. Starting to care less about football in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'd shamefully be back on board once Mike ashleys gone, regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'd shamefully be back on board once Mike ashleys gone, regardless. #Metoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I’ll happily buy a NUFC branded bonesaw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'd shamefully be back on board once Mike ashleys gone, regardless. I won't even be ashamed of it. There are plenty of British companies doing business with the Saudis, I don't see why it's our job to take one for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 From Ashley into the arms of the genocidal human rights abusers House of Saud. Unreal. The club is cursed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I hope those kicking off about potentially being owned by Saudis have gone around tut-tutting Man City fans, whose owners hail from a country that also has serious human rights abuses and is regressive as fuck. I wonder if there were any City fans that did stop supporting, I don’t know. I am against everything the Saudi regime stands for like the next reasonable human being, but to immediately lord some sort of a moral high ground over football fans because of it is strange. But we do live in 2020 and this is now normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snabelkabel Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 There is no need to worry about it... It's not gonna happen anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If Sports Direct's Mike Ashley's questionable business practices bankrolled an NUFC which was managed by a true 'footballing board' - that made its own decisions without interference from the owner and in the best interests of the club - I'd be able to turn a blind eye to wherever the finance originated. I don't believe it would matter anywhere near enough to me for it to have a profoundly negative effect on my support of the football team. But that's probably because, in the context of humanity, Mike Ashley isn't that bad. If the source of money and facilitation originated from something truly abhorrent like wholesale human rights abuse, it becomes a lot harder to turn a blind eye. But this is where it's unfair, and where normal football fans are simply caught in the crossfire between 'real' football's unhappy and incongruous link with economics, politics and current affairs. Football should be impartial to all that, but it isn't these days. Fans are forced into holding positions on non-footballing matters, because those issues have suddenly become reflected by their team. But they've had nowt to do with that process; it's not fair on them. I don't know how I'd feel if something like this were to happen, really. I'm at a point of desperation because I feel like the state of things has had an effect on my mental health. Not a destructive one obviously, but enough to effect my daily mood, certainly. I'm obsessed with football and I'm obsessed with NUFC; it's been a constant in my life and its hooked-into so many other things - big ticket things, too: family, friends, hobbies. But, now, it's something that makes me feel angry, miserable and/or low at least once a day. As such, I think I'd find it very difficult not to fully consume myself in optimism if Ashley left, regardless of who came in. And that's why, like I say, the general matters surrounding ownership drags fans into difficult and unfair positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Not happening until the Geordie dentist drills them for information and fills us in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 For the record, I think if Ashley had the money and power of MBS he would totally be worse (no not excusing MBS who is clearly vile) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I hope those kicking off about potentially being owned by Saudis have gone around tut-tutting Man City fans, whose owners hail from a country that also has serious human rights abuses and is regressive as f***. I wonder if there were any City fans that did stop supporting, I don’t know. I am against everything the Saudi regime stands for like the next reasonable human being, but to immediately lord some sort of a moral high ground over football fans because of it is strange. But we do live in 2020 and this is now normal. I have criticised Man City loads of times on here in the past, I don't know any Man City fans so don't have the option to do it in real life. Fwiw I can completely understand people still supporting NUFC but I at least hope we don't turn like the City fans I've seen online where they actually defend their horrific owners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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