Mike Ashley (former owner) (still alive)

[Disco]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

[Interpolic]

Implies Ashley is a proven and consistent liar when in reality you have to look at each situation as it comes.

[Papavasiliou]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

[Kasper]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

Good piece but I dont think its a big mystery whats going on.

 

To me there seem to be to types here.

 

1) The obvious trolls like Richard Keys or Talksport who just try to make ludicrous claims to get a reaction/clicks/views/callers what ever.

2) The ones who have it in their best interest to keep a steady interest in every day events at the football club for business reasons. Who's fit for Saturday, what did Jonjo eat for breakfast today etc. These are the ones who tow the "lets move on and focus on football" line like the local papers.

 

The whole of Newcastle boycotting the football club isnt good business for anyone in the media.

[Interpolic]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

Good piece but I dont think its a big mystery whats going on.

 

To me there seem to be to types here.

 

1) The obvious trolls like Richard Keys or Talksport who just try to make ludicrous claims to get a reaction/clicks/views/callers what ever.

2) The ones who have it in their best interest to keep a steady interest in every day events at the football club for business reasons. Who's fit for Saturday, what did Jonjo eat for breakfast today etc. These are the ones who tow the "lets move on and focus on football" line like the local papers.

 

The whole of Newcastle boycotting the football club isnt good business for anyone in the media.

 

Do agree but I think there's a 3rd type personally - people within the football media who have always hated Newcastle, who begrudged us having one of the best teams around in the 90s and 00s, who are delighted to see us back "in our place" now and therefore talk Ashley up or play his disastrous ownership down at every opportunity.  They want us to fail and Ashley is the perfect man to facilitate that.

[Disco]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

Good piece but I dont think its a big mystery whats going on.

 

To me there seem to be to types here.

 

1) The obvious trolls like Richard Keys or Talksport who just try to make ludicrous claims to get a reaction/clicks/views/callers what ever.

2) The ones who have it in their best interest to keep a steady interest in every day events at the football club for business reasons. Who's fit for Saturday, what did Jonjo eat for breakfast today etc. These are the ones who tow the "lets move on and focus on football" line like the local papers.

 

The whole of Newcastle boycotting the football club isnt good business for anyone in the media.

 

Do agree but I think there's a 3rd type personally - people within the football media who have always hated Newcastle, who begrudged us having one of the best teams around in the 90s and 00s, who are delighted to see us back "in our place" now and therefore talk Ashley up or play his disastrous ownership down at every opportunity.  They want us to fail and Ashley is the perfect man to facilitate that.

 

to both

[LV]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

Good piece but I dont think its a big mystery whats going on.

 

To me there seem to be to types here.

 

1) The obvious trolls like Richard Keys or Talksport who just try to make ludicrous claims to get a reaction/clicks/views/callers what ever.

2) The ones who have it in their best interest to keep a steady interest in every day events at the football club for business reasons. Who's fit for Saturday, what did Jonjo eat for breakfast today etc. These are the ones who tow the "lets move on and focus on football" line like the local papers.

 

The whole of Newcastle boycotting the football club isnt good business for anyone in the media.

 

Do agree but I think there's a 3rd type personally - people within the football media who have always hated Newcastle, who begrudged us having one of the best teams around in the 90s and 00s, who are delighted to see us back "in our place" now and therefore talk Ashley up or play his disastrous ownership down at every opportunity.  They want us to fail and Ashley is the perfect man to facilitate that.

 

I absolutely agree with 3. It’s been there since our decline under Dalgleish. Maybe even before under Keegan, although there were a lot of neutrals who liked us then. But definitely since our decline there has been this ‘who do they think they are’ narrative and those people are loving Ashley owning us. I find Villa fans to be particularly bad for this. No idea why except for maybe jealousy that it wasn’t them in the mid 90s who had the purple patch after their successes in the 80s.

[The College Dropout]

The fact Mike Ashley is British billionaire who made his money and has his influence in the UK is a major factor.

 

He's not some east Asian retailer with limited influence in the UK and its media. Rio Ferdinand has business with Ashley, that type of thing cannot be ignored. His businesses buy-up media advertising for the rags.

 

 

I still say, we don't make a big enough deal of it as fans. The media didn't make a big song and dance of his troubles with Rangers but Rangers ran him out of town anyway.

[jackyboy]

This Ashley PR stunt is obviously working on some people.  I am 75, my brother is 82 and though he now lives in Surrey and me in Scotland, we have continued to support our team since we were kids. They have been,  and still are, a major part of our lives.

However, due to the bullshit and PR lies being churned out my brother is now telling me that he is beginning to think that Rafa was not all that he seemed to be.  It makes me furious but I just wonder how many others are being turned

[Fitzgerald]

Here's a question. How would people feel about going back and sitting amongst all these new super fans if Ashley left?

 

I don't think I could do it personally. The best thing about supporting Newcastle pre Ashley was our support I was so proud of it. Now it sickens me. Sitting amongst people who were happy to have Ashley and Bruce, it just wouldn't feel like the old NUFC. I think it's dead for good regardless.

[Fitzgerald]

This Ashley PR stunt is obviously working on some people.  I am 75, my brother is 82 and though he now lives in Surrey and me in Scotland, we have continued to support our team since we were kids. They have been,  and still are, a major part of our lives.

However, due to the bullshit and PR lies being churned out my brother is now telling me that he is beginning to think that Rafa was not all that he seemed to be.  It makes me furious but I just wonder how many others are being turned

 

Loads. My dad certainly was. Telling me to get behind Bruce and that Rafa wasn't all that etc. Sickened me. Can't be dealing with that shit

[Darth Crooks]

Here's a question. How would people feel about going back and sitting amongst all these new super fans if Ashley left?

 

I don't think I could do it personally. The best thing about supporting Newcastle pre Ashley was our support I was so proud of it. Now it sickens me. Sitting amongst people who were happy to have Ashley and Bruce, it just wouldn't feel like the old NUFC. I think it's dead for good regardless.

 

Knowing the vitriol aimed at many either way it'd be hard to feel the same way. Still, I'd at least enjoy being with the family again.

[Conjo]

Here's a question. How would people feel about going back and sitting amongst all these new super fans if Ashley left?

 

I don't think I could do it personally. The best thing about supporting Newcastle pre Ashley was our support I was so proud of it. Now it sickens me. Sitting amongst people who were happy to have Ashley and Bruce, it just wouldn't feel like the old NUFC. I think it's dead for good regardless.

 

I'd not give two shits about them and enjoy the team and football. Laugh in their face if they ever spewed the "we were here when" shit.

[Johneddy]

Here's a question. How would people feel about going back and sitting amongst all these new super fans if Ashley left?

 

I don't think I could do it personally. The best thing about supporting Newcastle pre Ashley was our support I was so proud of it. Now it sickens me. Sitting amongst people who were happy to have Ashley and Bruce, it just wouldn't feel like the old NUFC. I think it's dead for good regardless.

 

This is where I am too... I was outside Aspers having a tab as they came down the street rain-soaked and miserable - I was audibly baiting the fukkers with plenty of bleats and did you enjoy that then scabs..not one fukker even looked me in the eye as they walked past heads bowed and to my mind ashamed of their Ashley-supporting presence - my mate took me inside for everyones good - not my best moment I admit but beer was in etc

[Guest The Little Waster]

Here's a question. How would people feel about going back and sitting amongst all these new super fans if Ashley left?

 

I don't think I could do it personally. The best thing about supporting Newcastle pre Ashley was our support I was so proud of it. Now it sickens me. Sitting amongst people who were happy to have Ashley and Bruce, it just wouldn't feel like the old NUFC. I think it's dead for good regardless.

 

This is where I am too... I was outside Aspers having a tab as they came down the street rain-soaked and miserable - I was audibly baiting the fukkers with plenty of bleats and did you enjoy that then scabs..not one fukker even looked me in the eye as they walked past heads bowed and to my mind ashamed of their Ashley-supporting presence - my mate took me inside for everyones good - not my best moment I admit but beer was in etc

 

You showed admirable restraint imo , i saw some of the ' supa ' fans at the top of Northumberland street after the match , on their way to various drinking holes ... not a peep out of any of them either after or seemingly whilst at the match . Whats the feckin point of it all

[Nobody]

Here's a question. How would people feel about going back and sitting amongst all these new super fans if Ashley left?

 

I don't think I could do it personally. The best thing about supporting Newcastle pre Ashley was our support I was so proud of it. Now it sickens me. Sitting amongst people who were happy to have Ashley and Bruce, it just wouldn't feel like the old NUFC. I think it's dead for good regardless.

We know, you posted the exact same fuckikg thing yesterday. It was a load of nonsense then, and it is today as well.

[RS]

The blind faith magkems will have plenty to say by Christmas when we’re adrift at the bottom. Might even get a few Rafa chants in the ground.

[Tribesman]

What is it now, nearly £900m in TV money coming into the club over the last 12 years? So this "good businessman" has made us so expensive to run that it's all been used on running costs?

 

Does it cost £75m a year to run a football club? This is ignoring advertising, marketing, ticket sales, prize money (cough) of course. But no, the money hasn't "gone anywhere" has it Mike.

 

I mentioned this a few weeks ago, but compared to other Premier League clubs Newcastle has a small number of staff running the club so the money isn't going there.

 

We don't spend a lot in transfers or wages.

 

We haven't spent it on training ground improvements and the academy.

 

We haven't spent much on stadium improvements.

 

The only conclusion I can make is that Ashley is taking money to spend on other projects outside Newcastle. Some people might say that is just a conspiracy, but we all know from Ashley's recent actions at Sports Direct that he plays by his own rules.

 

This is the 19th richest club in the world. Even if its just a case of running the club by its own means there should be more than enough money to spend big without having to sell our best players and also make improvements to the training ground and academy. The club can spend big when it wants to when they are either desperate to avoid relegation or need to do some pr to take negative attention away from them. Ashley chooses to run the club this way not out of necessity.

 

The club just continues to plead poverty despite earning millions every year. All Ashley does is talk the club down yet never makes any effort to elevate itself to a higher level.

 

 

[D. Yimentov]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

Good piece but I dont think its a big mystery whats going on.

 

To me there seem to be to types here.

 

1) The obvious trolls like Richard Keys or Talksport who just try to make ludicrous claims to get a reaction/clicks/views/callers what ever.

2) The ones who have it in their best interest to keep a steady interest in every day events at the football club for business reasons. Who's fit for Saturday, what did Jonjo eat for breakfast today etc. These are the ones who tow the "lets move on and focus on football" line like the local papers.

 

The whole of Newcastle boycotting the football club isnt good business for anyone in the media.

 

Do agree but I think there's a 3rd type personally - people within the football media who have always hated Newcastle, who begrudged us having one of the best teams around in the 90s and 00s, who are delighted to see us back "in our place" now and therefore talk Ashley up or play his disastrous ownership down at every opportunity.  They want us to fail and Ashley is the perfect man to facilitate that.

 

The 3rd types you refer to have been most instrumental in lowering our expectations. For 10 years our superfans have been turning their noses up at any whiff of ambition. "No wonder they call us deluded." Yeah, god forbid Stan Collymore or Paul Merson thinks we're aiming above our station.

[Guest chopey]

The 3rd type is definitely Jason Cundy on Talksport he has admitted he has always hated Newcastle and does his best to show it.

 

However Adrian Durham called me out on twitter the other week (he actually contributed personally to wor flags for the surfers) and he wants the team to do well and has called for fans to back Bruce for he 100% wants rid of Ashley, I'm not sure why but he genuinely wants what's best for Newcastle.

[Tooj]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

Good piece but I dont think its a big mystery whats going on.

 

To me there seem to be to types here.

 

1) The obvious trolls like Richard Keys or Talksport who just try to make ludicrous claims to get a reaction/clicks/views/callers what ever.

2) The ones who have it in their best interest to keep a steady interest in every day events at the football club for business reasons. Who's fit for Saturday, what did Jonjo eat for breakfast today etc. These are the ones who tow the "lets move on and focus on football" line like the local papers.

 

The whole of Newcastle boycotting the football club isnt good business for anyone in the media.

 

Do agree but I think there's a 3rd type personally - people within the football media who have always hated Newcastle, who begrudged us having one of the best teams around in the 90s and 00s, who are delighted to see us back "in our place" now and therefore talk Ashley up or play his disastrous ownership down at every opportunity.  They want us to fail and Ashley is the perfect man to facilitate that.

Can't say I agree with that like, we were absolutely loved by the neutrals and the pundits during both Keegan's first stint and during peak Sir Bobby.

[Nobody]

Why is no one talking about us only spending around 30m net this summer? It's nowhere near enough considering the state of our squad and how tight we've been since coming up, yet everyone seems to be saying how we've "splashed the cash". PR machine in full swing, and loads seems to be falling for it.

[Disco]

https://www.football365.com/news/mike-ashley-and-newcastle-the-punditry-silence-is-deafening

 

Good piece, he's written a few decent pieces recently on the club.

 

Good piece but I dont think its a big mystery whats going on.

 

To me there seem to be to types here.

 

1) The obvious trolls like Richard Keys or Talksport who just try to make ludicrous claims to get a reaction/clicks/views/callers what ever.

2) The ones who have it in their best interest to keep a steady interest in every day events at the football club for business reasons. Who's fit for Saturday, what did Jonjo eat for breakfast today etc. These are the ones who tow the "lets move on and focus on football" line like the local papers.

 

The whole of Newcastle boycotting the football club isnt good business for anyone in the media.

 

Do agree but I think there's a 3rd type personally - people within the football media who have always hated Newcastle, who begrudged us having one of the best teams around in the 90s and 00s, who are delighted to see us back "in our place" now and therefore talk Ashley up or play his disastrous ownership down at every opportunity.  They want us to fail and Ashley is the perfect man to facilitate that.

Can't say I agree with that like, we were absolutely loved by the neutrals and the pundits during both Keegan's first stint and during peak Sir Bobby.

 

Hence why many now hate us. They saw the adulation and want us to suffer now. Also being from the Far North doesn’t help.

[Interpolic]

Good sides almost always get lavished with praise as we rightly were under Keegan and Robson. Anyone slagging us off during that time would have been slaughtered or ignored. But any time we've dropped from that position the "who the hell do they think they are, expecting success?" narrative starts from pundits with a chip on their shoulder about Newcastle then gets parroted by fans all over the shop.

[Tsunami]

Ashley is suggesting that he personally put £20M towards Joelinton’s transfer fee, no idea why or how that would be necessary.