Optimistic Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 And now he’s being primed for the Man City job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Blueprint obviously involved running the football club as a football club. Damning yes, but not surprising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Anyone that has ambition or is a professional, either gets binned off or is ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Yeah, the only blueprint the club will be following is Ashley's blueprint. The sooner those still giving him money walk away the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 This club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Last thing we need is another idiot turning up with a bag full of tactics and no British pashun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 NUFC = Phoenix Nights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If an up-and-comer like Van Bronckhorst was interested in the job, given everything that's happened here, I'd question his integrity and knowledge. Rafa proved that, no matter how good a manager you are, you can't overcome Ashley. It's a patsy's job. They really did have it perfect during the Pardew era. A conveyor belt of decent players and a manager who wasn't bad enough to actually get them relegated. They've got worse players and a worse manager now. Tricky for em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It’ll always be a massive shop window for an up and coming foreign manager. Particularly one from a smaller league or smaller club in a bigger league. Say he came in and we finished 9th, Emery fucks off at the end of the season, oh hi Arsenal former player GvB here - fancy a nosh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It’ll always be a massive shop window for an up and coming foreign manager. Particularly one from a smaller league or smaller club in a bigger league. Say he came in and we finished 9th, Emery fucks off at the end of the season, oh hi Arsenal former player GvB here - fancy a nosh? Aye, it’s still a huge step up for someone like him and he has potential to get something from those players. Keep us up a couple of seasons and someone like Arsenal would come in eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Nah, it's surely far too risky. You're not allowed to be a good manager under Ashley. Much more likely to set your career back than get it going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I wouldn't question Gio's integrity or knowledge, or any up&comer. Like Disco said - it's a shop window job at the moment but at the very least - it's a job in England in the PL for NUFC. Everyone with any bit of pride in themselves would fancy working with a decent budget and chance to make a really good 1 or 2 season run - and if the owner doesn't want to spend cash - then hell, move on to a club who values you. Or side point, the oft chance we get sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 We are such damaged goods now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Nah, it's surely far too risky. You're not allowed to be a good manager under Ashley. Much more likely to set your career back than get it going. Hughton has made himself a career out of management since Ashley gave him the gig full-time. Pardew was a Championship/League 1 manager until he came here, he got a couple of jobs in the Premier League that he’d never have got but for Ashley. McClaren was McClaren. Benitez was quality here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I wouldn't question Gio's integrity or knowledge, or any up&comer. Like Disco said - it's a shop window job at the moment but at the very least - it's a job in England in the PL for NUFC. Everyone with any bit of pride in themselves would fancy working with a decent budget and chance to make a really good 1 or 2 season run - and if the owner doesn't want to spend cash - then hell, move on to a club who values you. Or side point, the oft chance we get sold. Premier League jobs are coming up all the time, fuck taking a chance on this sorry mess. Like I say, you're blind to what's happening if you fancy a stab at Ashley's NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Nah, it's surely far too risky. You're not allowed to be a good manager under Ashley. Much more likely to set your career back than get it going. Hughton has made himself a career out of management since Ashley gave him the gig full-time. Pardew was a Championship/League 1 manager until he came here, he got a couple of jobs in the Premier League that he’d never have got but for Ashley. McClaren was McClaren. Benitez was quality here. Of course, but when I said 'more likely to set your career back', I'm referring to those up and comers with lots of potential, like GVB. Every single one of those bands, Rafa aside, were very grateful for the job and would have been nowhere near the dugout if things had been run properly. *and, aye, Rafa was great, but was working at about 5% his potential Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If you’ve got a bit of quality you can still do something with that squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I just don't know why any young manager would want to risk working at this shit-tip where the owners are more likely to entrap and limit you than help to release your potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 To be fair it's kinda a win win, do well for a year or two before leaving as no chance of investment you look good and within your rights to jump ship for better offer, fail miserably, well the clubs a shambles you can't be blamed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I just don't know why any young manager would want to risk working at this shit-tip where the owners are more likely to entrap and limit you than help to release your potential. Because like Disco says, if they do above average they’ll go on to better things. The expectation of the match going fan is so low he’d get an easy ride there, all he’d have to do is finish between 14th & 17th and he’ll be on other clubs’ radars. We’re not exactly great but an above average manager with that squad should be able to finish above 3 of the rest of the dross down there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Yimentov Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If we're adrift by January he'll pull the trigger on Bruce. Mike doesn't want to lose his advertising platform. He'll break the bank to get Sam or Harry in. Might even buy a couple of proven mid-table cloggers from the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 There were nine PL vacancies during the course of last season (including the close season). There was something daft like 15 or 16 the year prior. Why clamour for the Newcastle job when you could end up with Watford or Everton or which ever clubs underachieve? I'm arguing for the sake of it really. Ashley and Co would never employ someone who is their own man. Not after the headache they had with Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I’m pretty much expecting a Fat Sam and Nolan dream team to come in if he does pull the plug on Bruce at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 There were nine PL vacancies during the course of last season (including the close season). There was something daft like 15 or 16 the year prior. Why clamour for the Newcastle job when you could end up with Watford or Everton or which ever clubs underachieve? I'm arguing for the sake of it really. Ashley and Co would never employ someone who is their own man. Not after the headache they had with Rafa. Watford job comes up every season. If you wanted it, you'd get it eventually... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Hoser Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/sep/30/steve-bruce-newcastle-leicester Tense exchange between Brucie and Charnley 🤪 Already going tits up, and we barely got to the end of September. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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