Joelinton: suspended for Ipswich, not Brentford

[Lenny]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

[ToonArmy1892]

I'm glad he has flopped, hopefully Mike is fuming.

[TBG]

Got to question Bruce's scouting

[KaKa]

I'm glad he has flopped, hopefully Mike is fuming.

 

Everyone will flop man.

 

Even ASM as dangerous as he is will not translate to anything tangible, because the whole setup, plan and approach is completely ineffective.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

If there’s no connection between signings and football strategy, things will inevitably fall apart.

[joeyt]

We don't get him anywhere near goalscoring positions. Barely anyone within 20 yards of him

[TRon]

It might even be that he's not good enough in other ways, maybe he doesn't attack the spaces in the penalty area like all good forwards should. But how can you know when we barely get the ball into those areas? For all his trickery, I can remember one decent cross coming in from Maximin. Don't think there was even one from the other side.

[KaKa]

It might even be that he's not good enough in other ways, maybe he doesn't attack the spaces in the penalty area like all good forwards should. But how can you know when we barely get the ball into those areas? For all his trickery, I can remember one decent cross coming in from Maximin. Don't think there was even one from the other side.

 

The guy never sees the ball

 

When last did we even see him get an opportunity to miss a chance?

[Rod]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

[TRon]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

 

Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles.

[Disco]

He’s only had 15 shots this season which says an awful lot.

[Rod]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

 

Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles.

 

I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender.  He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score.  Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar.  He is clueless I tell you.

[TRon]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

 

Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles.

 

I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender.  He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score.  Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar.  He is clueless I tell you.

 

Don't think anyone is trying to argue that he's good at dealing with long high punts. How many Brazilian forwards do you know that are?

[KaKa]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

 

Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles.

 

I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender.  He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score.  Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar.  He is clueless I tell you.

 

It was great play by Kane. How often is he asked to do that though? It was one time.

 

You can't say Joelinton never managed that earlier this season. It has all worm thin now though.

 

He never gets any other opportunities to get on the ball and get a feel for the game and grow into things.

 

Think it's all really unfortunate for the guy. It's a terrible situation to come into as a new player in the league.

 

I understand people's frustration at this point though, so won't begrudge you that.

[Greg]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a f***ing target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

 

Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles.

 

I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender.  He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score.  Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar.  He is clueless I tell you.

 

Harry Kane is a centre forward and has been a centre forward for a long time. He also has a far better supply.

 

Joelinton has never played this role before in his life, no wonder he looks shite. It's not his fault, he shouldn't be there being asked to do this.

[Rod]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a f***ing target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

 

Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles.

 

I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender.  He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score.  Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar.  He is clueless I tell you.

 

Harry Kane is a centre forward and has been a centre forward for a long time. He also has a far better supply.

 

Joelinton has never played this role before in his life, no wonder he looks shite. It's not his fault, he shouldn't be there being asked to do this.

 

Greg, I'm going around in circles with this.  Let's cut to the Chase.  Do you think Joelinton should be playing in this football team?  Yes or no.

[Greg]

I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a f***ing target man

 

We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating.

 

Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths.

Which are?  I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are.

 

Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles.

 

I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender.  He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score.  Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar.  He is clueless I tell you.

 

Harry Kane is a centre forward and has been a centre forward for a long time. He also has a far better supply.

 

Joelinton has never played this role before in his life, no wonder he looks s****. It's not his fault, he shouldn't be there being asked to do this.

 

Greg, I'm going around in circles with this.  Let's cut to the Chase.  Do you think Joelinton should be playing in this football team?  Yes or no.

 

No.

[hakka]

I like Joelinton, but he's not ready for starting in this league each week. Especially thrown in the deepend as a number 9 in a side that's terrible at creating chances.

[Marmoset]

Is he a good crosser of a ball? YouTube has some really good running with the ball from deep but not a lot of passing or crossing.

 

Played into feet his link play has been nice at times this season, but I just can't picture him playing where Ayoze played or on the wing, based on these 10 games.

 

For people who saw him in Germany and say he's not in his correct position, who would you compare him to? Like a Rashford/Martial coming in from the side type?

[Guest chopey]

Rafa must be building the biggest megaphone in the world and standing it on top of China's highest mountain pointing it at Ashley....

 

"I TOLD YOU SO"

[Guest]

Rafa must be building the biggest megaphone in the world and standing it on top of China's highest mountain pointing it at Ashley....

 

"I TOLD YOU SO"

 

Do you think Rondon would do any better in this set up? He didn’t under a Pulis or Pardew team so see no reason why he would under a Bruce one. Someone else pointed out, we don’t press as a three like we did last season. Joelinton is often playing with his back to goal with two centre-backs on him and no team mate within 20-30 yards of him. I think these 3 attackers with Benitez would work. Under a shitebag like Bruce, they won’t. Simple really.

[RS]

Mike Ashley’s footballing House of Fraser.

[Disco]

Might be even sooner than predicted the Donnay Army turn on him. A missed chance or losing a 50/50 against Bournemouth could be enough. Cannot wait.

[Hughesy]

Controversial opinion - but I don't actually think he looks that bad...

 

He actually won quite a few flicks on yesterday but there was no one around him.

[Guest reefatoon]

Like Bruce said, it's all Rafa's fault, and its absolutely wrecking Joelinton's game.  Even though Joelinton never played for Rafa, he is also caught up in this mysterious defensive mentality that is plaguing the training ground.