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Joelinton: will not play against Everton (Howe)


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You know what’ll sort out all of these muscular injuries? More running and “working harder” on the training pitch, “getting back to basics” if you will. Just got to pick wasels up and dust wasels down, get back to work and put in the effort for the fans that have paid good money to cheer the lads on.

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This was always going to happen,but always does.

 

I wanted no excuses for the fat mess, I cant believe how bad Bruce is,I really cant.

 

The fuck were you expecting like?

 

Like I said I wasnt expecting him to be this fucking shite, I was expecting a modicum of ability.

Calm fucking down man, you are going on like a fucking spoilt little boy on here, it’s getting tedious .

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From what I read about Joelinton from his time at Hoffenheim he seemed more suitable to being a Perez replacement rather than playing the target man role like Rondon did last season. However, because Bruce could only complement him on his size and strength when he first signed its probably no surprise Bruce is using him for a role he just can't play. He has never been a prolific goal scorer, but there is probably potential there however, we will never see that potential because Bruce is one of the last managers you want getting the best out of a young talent. I can guarantee you if someone like Hasenhuttl or Gracia was in charge of this team then you would see a better player in Joelinton.

 

I kind of feel sorry for him to be honest. Because he cost £40 million there is an expectation for him to score loads of goals, to win matches on his own and to shoot the club to safety. He is new to this league and country, but has no time to adapt because the pressure is already on him to be the main man. Last week it was mentioned Bruce wanted Carroll to be Joelintons mentor, but what is he going to learn from someone he can't communicate with and spends most of his time on the injury table. The perfect mentor for Joelinton would have been Rondon who is a professional on and off the pitch. The pressure would instantly be off Joelintons shoulders because everyone could rely on Rondon to lead the line and you could even have the luxury of having Joelinton start matches from the bench until he settles in. This is what Arsenal appear to be doing with Pepe. He also has a big price tag on his head and there is an expectation of him being a big player for them. However like Joelinton he might need time to adapt to a new league and country, but because Arsenal have Aubameyang and Lacazette up front, Emery has the luxury of putting Pepe on the bench until he is ready to start matches regularly because Emery knows he can rely on two experienced forwards to beat Newcastle and Burnley.

 

Newcastle just don't care about these important details which are more likely to help make a profit on players like Joelinton than what they are trying to do now. A club policy of only buying players because of their resale value rather than how they fit into a teams system never works, we have seen from the McClaren era it doesn't work. It doesn't benefit Ashley in terms of profit, it doesn't benefit the team in getting results and it doesn't help a young player reach their potential. Yet the club insist on doing it this way and once again it will to relegation.

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Honestly, use the Ignore function. I've never had to in 14 years posting on this forum, but I have this summer. If people are relentlessly going to post the same tedious thing over and over and over and over again, it's the only remedy. It's genuinely improved the forum for me, having put a few people on it. And the more who have them on Ignore, the less people will respond, then folks soon pack it in. We've seen it plenty of times before.

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Honestly, use the Ignore function. I've never had to in 14 years posting on this forum, but I have this summer. If people are relentlessly going to post the same tedious thing over and over and over and over again, it's the only remedy. It's genuinely improved the forum for me, having put a few people on it. And the more who have them on Ignore, the less people will respond, then folks soon pack it in. We've seen it plenty of times before.

 

Fair point, will use it now.

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From what I read about Joelinton from his time at Hoffenheim he seemed more suitable to being a Perez replacement rather than playing the target man role like Rondon did last season. However, because Bruce could only complement him on his size and strength when he first signed its probably no surprise Bruce is using him for a role he just can't play. He has never been a prolific goal scorer, but there is probably potential there however, we will never see that potential because Bruce is one of the last managers you want getting the best out of a young talent. I can guarantee you if someone like Hasenhuttl or Gracia was in charge of this team then you would see a better player in Joelinton.

 

I kind of feel sorry for him to be honest. Because he cost £40 million there is an expectation for him to score loads of goals, to win matches on his own and to shoot the club to safety. He is new to this league and country, but has no time to adapt because the pressure is already on him to be the main man. Last week it was mentioned Bruce wanted Carroll to be Joelintons mentor, but what is he going to learn from someone he can't communicate with and spends most of his time on the injury table. The perfect mentor for Joelinton would have been Rondon who is a professional on and off the pitch. The pressure would instantly be off Joelintons shoulders because everyone could rely on Rondon to lead the line and you could even have the luxury of having Joelinton start matches from the bench until he settles in. This is what Arsenal appear to be doing with Pepe. He also has a big price tag on his head and there is an expectation of him being a big player for them. However like Joelinton he might need time to adapt to a new league and country, but because Arsenal have Aubameyang and Lacazette up front, Emery has the luxury of putting Pepe on the bench until he is ready to start matches regularly because Emery knows he can rely on two experienced forwards to beat Newcastle and Burnley.

 

Newcastle just don't care about these important details which are more likely to help make a profit on players like Joelinton than what they are trying to do now. A club policy of only buying players because of their resale value rather than how they fit into a teams system never works, we have seen from the McClaren era it doesn't work. It doesn't benefit Ashley in terms of profit, it doesn't benefit the team in getting results and it doesn't help a young player reach their potential. Yet the club insist on doing it this way and once again it will to relegation.

 

Good post. He's in a tough situation for any player never mind for a 22/23 year old adjusting to a new culture and league. Needs time, won't get it, both due to the necessity to win games and also due to a certain bulk of our fan base which has proved time and time again to be less than patient and not at all forgiving to players find their feet.

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Hope this c*** is out for the season

 

Bit much like. You've every right and reason to be furious with the club, but wishing one of our own players injured is bad crack.

 

Ah your right. Wanting 40m of mikes investment and increasing the chances of relegation isn't ok and nobody wants that do they!?

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I said it when we signed him, if he was bought as rondon replacement then it's a big worry.  He should be playing much deeper.

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It's getting to the point where I honestly think the football section needs to be split in two, one for the ones that just want to talk about how much they want Newcastle to lose, and one for the rest of us that actually want to discuss football.

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