Joelinton: will not play against Everton (Howe)

[M1tche]

11 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

He doesn’t play the same role as Vieira / Yaya Toure.  He’s a big unit who plays wide left or left sided attacking midfielder.  We might get our money back if he was sold

No-one said he plays the same position, but if you combine his current attributes with the extra things people say he should be better at you'd be looking at an elite CM

[mighty__mag]

1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

That's not enough for a starter in a team from the PL that's just been in the Champions League imo

 

Have you any idea how much Isak and Bruno were on before they joined us, you'd be amazed.

 

Isak 22k Bruno 42k

 

Players go to France, Spain, Germany and get paid a hell of a lot less.

 

85k is fortunes compared with what Joelinton would get anywhere, unless he was playing for an Elite club, or some clubs in the PL who really do overpay. 

 

You're basing him deserving champions league type salary on us qualifying once in 20yrs by over achieving, we're still some way from being a regular champions league club.

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2024 by mighty__mag

[TheBrownBottle]

45 minutes ago, M1tche said:

No-one said he plays the same position, but if you combine his current attributes with the extra things people say he should be better at you'd be looking at an elite CM

I don’t think he’s a particularly good CM tbh.  Never looks at his best there at all.  He can cause havoc further forward, and does some good backtracking out wide

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

£160,000 a week?

 

I've just had a look at Atletico's wages on Capology.com, and they have 5 players on over 200,000 euros a week. One of which is Morata.

Given that Atheltico’s turnover was about £70m higher than ours in the last set of accounts, he’d best ask them for crazy money.  NUFC remains limited on what could realistically offered in salary.  Joelinton isn’t close to being a £160k pw player. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I would see him moving to a mid-level PL club if he was to leave, not sure in European terms.
 

But presumably everyone outside the PL would struggle to pay him, unless he wants to go to Saudi. 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Big River]

 

^ me reading some of these foolish posts about Big Lints.

 

back to back player of the season, and we're worrying about what to pay him  give the man what he wants.

 

he's embodies absolutely everything there is to like about this team (and club). football has really gone to shit when fans are more worried about balancing the books.

[Krabbe2]

The salary can be increased somewhat, then he can rather get a bonus for goals and assists.
Maybe the end product will be more clinical then?

[Geordie Ahmed]

Love Joelinton and would be gutted if he left but he's not our best player so shouldn't be our highest earner

 

Based on his last 2 years he's no doubt earned a pay rise, though ironically he stole a living for the first two

 

I think he'd do well to remember how much Howe (combined with a bit of fortune of Clark getting sent off) has benefited his game and realise he's the best coach to stick with 

[kingxlnc]

I can see Liverpool going for him. 
 

[OCOCOL]

23 minutes ago, Big River said:

 

^ me reading some of these foolish posts about Big Lints.

 

back to back player of the season, and we're worrying about what to pay him  give the man what he wants.

 

he's embodies absolutely everything there is to like about this team (and club). football has really gone to shit when fans are more worried about balancing the books.

balance sheet champions 

[smootsmack]

3 hours ago, Big River said:

 

^ me reading some of these foolish posts about Big Lints.

 

back to back player of the season, and we're worrying about what to pay him  give the man what he wants.

 

he's embodies absolutely everything there is to like about this team (and club). football has really gone to shit when fans are more worried about balancing the books.

 

FFP has turned this into an American sports forum its so sad... It's wild that the club with the richest owners in the world has been forced to start a 17 year old for 3 months and "can't afford" to make their player of the season the 42nd highest paid player in the league

[TRon]

13 hours ago, kingxlnc said:

I can see Liverpool going for him. 
 

 

 

I'd be very surprised tbh.

[Shearergol]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I'd be very surprised tbh.

 

He's too old for Liverpool. No re-sale value unless Saudi step in again.

[TheBrownBottle]

13 hours ago, Big River said:

 

^ me reading some of these foolish posts about Big Lints.

 

back to back player of the season, and we're worrying about what to pay him  give the man what he wants.

 

he's embodies absolutely everything there is to like about this team (and club). football has really gone to shit when fans are more worried about balancing the books.

Without FFP I wouldn’t give a solitary shite

[TRon]

24 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

He's too old for Liverpool. No re-sale value unless Saudi step in again.

 

Liverpool are in a position they can buy 200k/week players, they are one of a handful of clubs who can buy the very best midfielders in the world. While I love Joelinton, I just don't see him as that. Sometimes he's got great feet, other times it bounces off and he ends up cleaning someone out trying to recover the ball.

 

I'm always keeping one eye on how he's doing for Brazil as well, can't be easy maintaining your place in a side where they are used to technical perfection from their midfielders traditionally.

[STM]

Bayern.

[Beth]

Due to FFP finally starting to have some teeth, I think the days of players in this country being offered £300k-400k a week are coming to an end for the foreseeable future. Man U are looking to offload all their top earners, Casemiro, Varane, even Rashford if they get a big offer for him. Chelsea have spent all that money on Fernandez, Caicedo and Mudryk, yet they are all on sub £200k a week.

 

If Joe really wants the big money he can fuck off to Saudi and play in front of 5000 crowds every week.

[Pata]

On 07/02/2024 at 18:09, Shearergol said:

Is he fuck worth £160k a week though. He wouldn't get anywhere near that at any other club.

 

I reckon he'll end up staying with a slight pay increase and maybe a nice little release clause for if Real Madrid () come calling.

 

I don't know why he shouldn't be part of this list, £160k a week isn't that much in 2024. Bruno is still underpaid even after his new contract when Rashford, Havertz, Mount and Martial are in the 300k to 250k range somehow. Partey and Thiago (both who I forgot still exist) make 200k.

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2024 by Pata

[Shearergol]

4 hours ago, Pata said:

 

I don't know why he shouldn't be part of this list, £160k a week isn't that much in 2024. Bruno is still underpaid even after his new contract when Rashford, Havertz, Mount and Martial are in the 300k to 250k range somehow. Partey and Thiago (both who I forgot still exist) make 200k.

 

 

 

 

Well mainly because of FFP

[The College Dropout]

On 07/02/2024 at 19:21, KaKa said:

 

£160,000 a week?

 

I've just had a look at Atletico's wages on Capology.com, and they have 5 players on over 200,000 euros a week. One of which is Morata.

A lot of footballer wages depend on the fee you've joined for and the clubs you've left. 

 

Morata has bounced between Real Madrid and Juventus before landing at Atleti. And he's the starting 9 for Spain. Of course, he is on megabucks.

 

I don't have strong views on the Joelinton contract thing. I want him to stay but don't really know what is fair for both parties wage wise. 

[jonny1403]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

A lot of footballer wages depend on the fee you've joined for and the clubs you've left. 

 

Morata has bounced between Real Madrid and Juventus before landing at Atleti. And he's the starting 9 for Spain. Of course, he is on megabucks.

 

I don't have strong views on the Joelinton contract thing. I want him to stay but don't really know what is fair for both parties wage wise. 

 

Yep, this sums it up pretty well for me 

[TheBrownBottle]

On 09/02/2024 at 14:12, Pata said:

 

I don't know why he shouldn't be part of this list, £160k a week isn't that much in 2024. Bruno is still underpaid even after his new contract when Rashford, Havertz, Mount and Martial are in the 300k to 250k range somehow. Partey and Thiago (both who I forgot still exist) make 200k.

 

 

 

 

Bruno looks correctly paid to me - around the Maddison / Paqueta / Mac Allister etc bracket.  Joelinton isn’t in that bracket.  

[Ikon]

On 08/02/2024 at 13:12, STM said:

Bayern.

Not good enough technically for them. 

[healthyaddiction]

41 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Not good enough technically for them. 

Eric Dier plays for Bayern.

[Ikon]

1 minute ago, healthyaddiction said:

Eric Dier plays for Bayern.

Does he play as a CM box to box?