Groundhog63 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 4 hours ago, NG32 said: I cant get my head round this. Plays in a top 7 prem team which finished 4th the season before. Plays international football for Brazil. Something tells me he is more than just a "good" prem midfielder. An argument one could easily make in defence of Longstaff, Murphy, Miggy etc etc * (*) obvs not the "Brazil" bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) I think he's become massively underrated personally, he's very positive, always looks to make use of his physicality to move into space, and sometimes he'll get caught out. He could absolutely play the Longstaff pass if he wanted to, it's just you would be losing out on his ability to turn defence to attack for the sake of making us more solid in possession. Edited September 29 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) I think we can and will start to make better use of him in attack too, the Schar/Trippier to Jer longball is deadly. Edited September 29 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I think we can and will start to nake better use of him in attack too, the Schar/Trippier to Jer longball is deadly. Joelinton’s ability to read those passes - and control it quickly - is excellent. Though I’d argue he does this better when played further forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 36 minutes ago, Tiresias said: I think we may be arguing on linguistics he's in the top left are of a left sided 3 person midfield a lot on that heat map that a winger wouldn't be a huge amount but didn't really matter what you call it. I totally agree he's not a deep lying midfield you may have in the old double pivot but he can do that, but you'd be right to say he's not best in class at that but when i say he's great in midfield that's not role i think of, it's in that advanced left side winning ball high up I think we have been - this is what I’ve been trying to say (though admittedly not that well). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 18 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: An argument one could easily make in defence of Longstaff, Murphy, Miggy etc etc * (*) obvs not the "Brazil" bit He has way more attributes to his game than all three of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 This video says Big Joe was dropping in to make a back five. I was on the motorway for this one and only got to experience the match on Radio Newcastle via the app. Big Joe's heat map for the game does bear out the analysis here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 He’s been a makeshift LB for us this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 12 hours ago, nemtizz said: joelinton, man. brains, determination and dedication. not every player could have taken all that instruction on board and implemented it. yeah he loses the ball now and again, and is alays getting booked, but what a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 In recent weeks he hasn’t been carrying the ball as much and he’s been getting caught a lot. I can take the middling passing but this things he needs to sharpen up with then he’s close to being back to his best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 14 hours ago, nemtizz said: It's been clear ever since that Norwich game and thereafter that he's as tactically adept as you could possibly want from a player. A lot of it will be through the clarity of the message too, but he's such an adaptable player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 He seems very humble and willing to take instructions, even back to when he hired his own coach under Bacon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cclay Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 18 hours ago, Stottie said: This video says Big Joe was dropping in to make a back five. I was on the motorway for this one and only got to experience the match on Radio Newcastle via the app. Big Joe's heat map for the game does bear out the analysis here. Ryder, unfortunately: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/genius-pre-season-move-inspired-30042804 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Is this not exactly the same role that we emplyed Elliot Anderson in against Spurs at home last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: It's been clear ever since that Norwich game and thereafter that he's as tactically adept as you could possibly want from a player. A lot of it will be through the clarity of the message too, but he's such an adaptable player. I think it was Nagelsmann who called him a machine and was referring to his physicality. But also referenced how he is really tactically aware. I'm sure Howe has mentioned this, too. Certainly looks difficult that. Especially against such an elite side. Knowing when to press, when to drop, when to switch from defender back to midfielder when possession is regained. All of the triggers and areas on the pitch to remember. The players he is supposed to man mark when they are such a fluid team. I'm sure this happens on a much more complex level in the modern game. But it was still cool to see and it's great that we have such versatile players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 14 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Is this not exactly the same role that we emplyed Elliot Anderson in against Spurs at home last season? Didn't he just drop into left back out of possession? I'm sure there was more to it than that. But I don't remember him dropping in as a third centre back and marking their centre forward, as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: Didn't he just drop into left back out of possession? I'm sure there was more to it than that. But I don't remember him dropping in as a third centre back and marking their centre forward, as well. Joelinton was mostly an extra LB out of possession but saw him switch with Hall couple of times when Hall was marking/wrestling with Haaland which made a lot of sense. Joelinton’s lack of awareness in possession at times can be infuriating but he does so much when he’s on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 14 minutes ago, Pata said: Joelinton was mostly an extra LB out of possession but saw him switch with Hall couple of times when Hall was marking/wrestling with Haaland which made a lot of sense. Joelinton’s lack of awareness in possession at times can be infuriating but he does so much when he’s on the pitch. That's what I mean. Anderson did not drop in and start marking the CF at times against Spurs. Joelinton did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 19 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: That's what I mean. Anderson did not drop in and start marking the CF at times against Spurs. Joelinton did. Sorry, I missed that you quoted a post talking about Anderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Started really poorly and was probably our poorest player. Ended up MOTM imo, shame that he and everyone couldn't finish against toffee hehehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Thought it was a weird game from him tbh. He was involved constantly, him and Bruno definitely won the midfield battle, but Joelinton was a mixture of some really good work finding his way out of tight areas only to mess it up with a loose touch or not quite getting his pass right. I suppose you could say that for a lot of them Bruno excepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 I think this season he’s looked better once we past the 65-70 minute mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUJ Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Did I just read he's out 6 weeks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Just now, BUJ said: Did I just read he's out 6 weeks? Dunno did you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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