Hanshithispantz Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Aye Robert easily at the minute. ASM is great to watch but his stats aren't the greatest given the downsides of his game. Hopefully with the likes of Trippier and Bruno he'll be able to go up a gear though. @HaydnNUFCmade a great point about him pinning fullbacks back though which is a pretty hard thing to quantify in numbers. Edited January 29, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Interestingly ASM's stats are quite similar to Robert's. I guess we've just chosen to forget the similarly frustrating stuff. Edited January 29, 2022 by elbee909 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The ‘SHOOOOOT’ cunts at the match would have had a field day with Robert. For every Spurs 2nd goal there were about 10 others that ended up in the Gallowgate or Leazes. Still better than ASM, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 It is possible to like him as a player and appreciate what he brings to the team while at the same time being critical of his decision making and habit of holding onto the ball too long and losing possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 !00% Robert over ASM. But I like ASM for all his failings and I think he will improve as better players around him come in. I like his attitude and ambition. He wears his heart on his sleeve. His kind words for Steve Bruce was his opinion of his time with Bruce. We may all hate Bruce but he was maybe just being respectful of the man. He's gone on today saying nice things about Amanda (first name terms!!)...... I think he just wants to feel loved... and I think HBA was a bit like that....they need and react to the crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 ASM or Nobby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, KaKa said: ASM or Nobby? Too early to tell. Nobby played in a better team. Ask me again in 6 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Robert played in a much better team, pushing for champions league every year and at one point pushing for the title. Who can forget the victory against Arsenal to break the London hoodoo? Not to also mention, he had the likes of Shearer to attack his crosses and the pace of Bellamy and Dyer to allow him more space and dominate most games. For me, hard to compare. Give it a few years when hopefully ASM is still here and playing in a much better team. Edited January 29, 2022 by CPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I always liked Robert when he was on it he was brilliant but he was very hit and miss - defenders got away with murder back then aswell which probably contributed to that - it definitely did with ginola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, CPL said: Robert played in a much better team, pushing for champions league every year and at one point pushing for the title.Who can forget the victory against Arsenal to break the London hoodoo? Not to also mention, he had the likes of Shearer to attack his crosses and the pace of Bellamy and Dyer to allow him more space and dominate most games. For me, hard to compare. Give it a few years when hopefully ASM is still here and playing in a much better team. We had 4 seasons very similar to the last 4 we’ve had before this season prior to him & Bellamy arriving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, KaKa said: ASM or Nobby? Nobby is the best of the lot, man. Arguably one of our greatest players of all time. Edited January 29, 2022 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Nobby easily, goals, end product, team player, classy on the ball and just an all-rounder. Vastly underrated in the PL era he played in, he’d be worth an absolute fortune today! Robert over ASM too, although the latter is the better footballer, Robert was dynamic without having to even run at players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, HTT II said: Nobby easily, goals, end product, team player, classy on the ball and just an all-rounder. Vastly underrated in the PL era he played in, he’d be worth an absolute fortune today! Robert over ASM too, although the latter is the better footballer, Robert was dynamic without having to even run at players. Aye, he could cross the ball from about 40 yards from the byline, but whip it so it was as though he was within 20 yards. Awesome technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The questions at the minute should be nearer ASM or Glass tbh, not fucking Laurent Robert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: The questions at the minute should be nearer ASM or Glass tbh, not fucking Laurent Robert. He’s way closer to Lua Lua than he is Robert, Ginola or HBA imo. And he’s absolutely nowhere near Solano. Edited January 29, 2022 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 He has kept us up on his own two seasons running. Impossible to compare his performances/stats to players who were part of a team qualifying for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, elbee909 said: Interestingly ASM's stats are quite similar to Robert's. I guess we've just chosen to forget the similarly frustrating stuff. Eh? ASM is frustrating because he plays himself into danger not because he doesn't score/create enough. It's a good record for a traditional winger like Robert. Edited January 29, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 hours ago, elbee909 said: Interestingly ASM's stats are quite similar to Robert's. I guess we've just chosen to forget the similarly frustrating stuff. Robert (and Bellamy) transformed us from a lower midtable side to Champions League and title contenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 All I said - and you can look it up yourself if you like - was that Robert and ASM's stats for goals/assists per game are similar. That's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The way ASM plays we'd be wanting near Mahrez numbers from him soon like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I don't get the ASM hate mind. Not sure if hate is the right word like but you get my drift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, elbee909 said: All I said - and you can look it up yourself if you like - was that Robert and ASM's stats for goals/assists per game are similar. That's it. Yeah but you quoted me and missed off the reason why ASM's stats aren't really great. "ASM is great to watch but his stats aren't the greatest given the downsides of his game." He's upped his rate this season and will hopefully hit double digits in goals. 1 in 7 though isn't really something we can carry going forwards unless he improves other aspects of his game, he'll just be replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: I don't get the ASM hate mind. Not sure if hate is the right word like but you get my drift. Definitely don't hate him myself, I like him. The comparisons with Robert, Solano and HBA are inviting ridicule that's maybe misread as a dislike for him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Definitely don't hate him myself, I like him. The comparisons with Robert, Solano and HBA are inviting ridicule that's maybe misread as a dislike for him though. Aye. He's the kind of player I watch football for, I love him tbh. I just think realistically, unless he improves a lot, he's not going to be a superstar. At the minute he's one of them "he wouldn't be at Newcastle if he did X and Y" but if things go to plan we'll be beyond all of that after the Summer transfer window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) You also have to consider how many goals someone like Robert would have got in a 4-3-3 system playing directly off Shearer. The goal he scored in the FA Cup at home to Arsenal being a glimpse. He sometimes played off the striker for PSG and scored 15 league goals the season before we signed him. Edited January 29, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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