Kid Icarus Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: There's also buying into how Howe wants to play and being physically capable of that. I know he tried but I don't think he'll enjoy it. Get himself to Saudi or someone like Palace where he can do what Zaha does. Ironically another player who leans on his goals and assists. ASM absolutely buys into Howe's tactics imo, it's self-evident. His injuries (and potentially his likeability according to some ITKs on here) are the only factors that mean I'd reluctantly let him go, not going to lie and say I think Barnes would be a big or exciting upgrade though. Edited July 16, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 If we're to sell him to a Saudi team whats to stop them giving us something stupid like £80m for him? Easy way for them to move money into us and allow us to spend more this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Decky said: If we're to sell him to a Saudi team whats to stop them giving us something stupid like £80m for him? Fair market value Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, nufc123 said: Fair market value Difficult to determine that when it comes to something like transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: Difficult to determine that when it comes to something like transfers Well a player scoring one goal last season isnt a 80m signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Fair market value No rules regarding value of transfers at all. Fair market value only corresponds to sponsorship by related parties I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Manxst said: No rules regarding value of transfers at all. Fair market value only corresponds to sponsorship by related parties I think? Yeah but the whole PL would be on the phone to Masters if we sold Krafth for 90m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Well a player scoring one goal last season isnt a 80m signing. What about the 5 assists and the numerous chances he created? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: What about the 5 assists and the numerous chances he created? What about it? It doesnt scream north of 50m does it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: What about it? It doesnt scream north of 50m does it? Fabinho being dogshit all season doesn't scream £40m but here we are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yeah but the whole PL would be on the phone to Masters if we sold Krafth for 90m Man City fucked with their finances with dodgy sponsorship deals. Chelsea fucked about with 8 year contracts. If we can get away with it why not do it? PL teams can cry all they want but teams bend the rules time and time again and get away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: Fabinho being dogshit all season doesn't scream £40m but here we are Agree, but hes got a bigger name. Won the PL and the CL. Got loads of international games for Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: Agree, but hes got a bigger name. Won the PL and the CL. Got loads of international games for Brazil. You are arguing about a rule that doesn’t even exist man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, gdm said: You are arguing about a rule that doesn’t even exist man Didnt say it was a rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Difficult to determine that when it comes to something like transfers Realistically we'd struggle to get much more than £30m from any team outside of Saudi so best just take the money and keep quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yeah but the whole PL would be on the phone to Masters if we sold Krafth for 90m But if any team gave us 90m for Krafth, it’d have to have come from a related party surely, and be investigated under something else. It’s totally unrealistic. 50m for ASM isn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Manxst said: But if any team gave us 90m for Krafth, it’d have to have come from a related party surely, and be investigated under something else. It’s totally unrealistic. 50m for ASM isn’t. How much did Arsenal pay for Pepe ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I want him to stay. I'm not basing that on data, or pragmatic well reasoned arguments though. He can dribble and skin people, and that's exciting to watch . Regardless of whether his departure and subsequent replacement would strengthen or weaken the team, I'll be disappointed if a mazy dribbling maverick leaves our squad. I know that's not the ruthless attitude we need to win, but I'm not the manager so who cares Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: But if any team gave us 90m for Krafth, it’d have to have come from a related party surely, and be investigated under something else. It’s totally unrealistic. 50m for ASM isn’t. we arent talking about 50, ut 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ben said: How much did Arsenal pay for Pepe ? Arsenal and Lille arent owned by the same state owner are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Didnt say it was a rule. You mentioned ‘fair market value’ which isn’t a thing for transfers and you mentioned all the clubs being on the phone to masters as if masters could do anything about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ben said: How much did Arsenal pay for Pepe ? £73m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, gdm said: You mentioned ‘fair market value’ which isn’t a thing for transfers and you mentioned all the clubs being on the phone to masters as if masters could do anything about it You dont think there would be trouble if our players were going for 80m each to the Saudi League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Barnes has been slated by Leicester fans for being lazy so not sure he naturally buys into the way Howe wants to play I'd be gutted if Maxi goes but there seems to be a lot of noise about it I do feel it's almost inevitable I hear this argument a lot. It's very easy to pontificate about players being lazy or unmotivated (we had our fair share in that category under Ashley), but I also think it's worth considering that individuals need to feel challenged. It's why so many players take about a fresh start. It's a new set of teammates, new city, and it allows you to shake off some of the baggage you might have been carrying. I'd like to believe Eddie Howe will have done his background checks on Barnes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 hours ago, buzz said: You'd have to give away Darlow, Fraser and Lewis for nowt. I agree Lascelles would go for £5-10m. Well see I guess, they can't hang around here much longer, they simply will not feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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